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Old 18th January 2001, 04:25 PM
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Question How to simply calculate Measurement Uncertainty

I have the GUM Works Manual, I have excerpts from the Engineering Statistics Handbook, but I would like a step by step (simple)method for calculating and reporting the measurement uncertainty for M&TE calibration.
QS9000 says our calibration results should include this information, but provide no clear method of doing so. Does this stuff really have to be rocket science. I'm a big proponent of the kiss principle, "Keep it simple stupid".

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I have been reading about measurement uncertainty for some time. I have even set up a special sub-directory within the pdf_files directory. I know of no 'easy' answer. I suggest you read through some of the threads in that directory.

I did a forum search and found numerous 'hits' including http://Elsmar.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000072.html -- You might want to check out the thread.

That said, if ANYONE feels they can explain uncertainty easily and / or simply, I sure would like them to help us all out.
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David,

There is no clear cut method of calculating measurement uncertainty. I highly suggest taking a course to become familiar with the concept. Once you understand the concept, and the statistics behind it, it actually becomes fairly easy. I say easy, as opposed to simple. After you take the classes, it is easiest to come up with a general list of contributing factors to calibration uncertainty, such as temperature growth of UUT and standard/M&TE, deformation, repeatability, master uncertainty, resolution error, etc.

I've been where you are, take the class. The books make great sense to me now, but before it was put into plain english, they were well above my head. To save yourself, and your company, some money I suggest you start with the simple one day "Intro" course. Quite often that is all that you will need.

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Could someone please suggest source(s) for the training Mr. Wilde suggests?

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Old 3rd March 2001, 01:42 AM
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There is no easy way to calculate uncertainty as each type of measurement has it's own uncertainty contributors.

The easiest way I have found to calculate my uncertainty is to follow an example. You can find a very good example at *** DEAD LINK REMOVED *** click on the orange document.

You can also ask an expert. I called my local registration authority in Canada and talked with a metrologist for about an hour. He laid out what factors may contribute to uncertainty of my specific tests.

Now all I have to do is calculate it. That should be easy right? ;-/
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I had great luck with the training provided by Quamtec Corporation. 810-775-5495 ask for James Jenkins. Jenkins@quamtec.com
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Could someone please suggest source(s) for the training Mr. Wilde suggests?

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Mitutoyo Technical Seminars may be a good source: One coming up May 17 in Charlotte, NC - "Estimating Measuring Uncertainty" - 1 day for $325/person. Touted as an entry level course covering ANSI/NCSL Z540-2, PUMA method based on ISO/TR14253-2. Check out thier web site: www.mitutoyo.com


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