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I have a confusion about the question about Motivation
According to the book:-"The quality professioanl should recognize that people do have needs in common, which may often be met in basically the same way. For example, two such needs are that of being needed & of being treated with dignity & self respect."

BASICALLY, quality professional should receognize that people do have needs in common OR
quality professional should receognize that all people can't be motivated by the same set formula.
I want to make it clear that whether people can or they can't be motivated by the same set of formula like that of being needed & of being treated with dignity & self respect.
I checked the answers & different places they conflicting. folks
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I have a confusion about the question about Motivation
According to the book:-"The quality professioanl should recognize that people do have needs in common, which may often be met in basically the same way. For example, two such needs are that of being needed & of being treated with dignity & self respect."

BASICALLY, quality professional should receognize that people do have needs in common OR
quality professional should receognize that all people can't be motivated by the same set formula.
I want to make it clear that whether people can or they can't be motivated by the same set of formula like that of being needed & of being treated with dignity & self respect.
I checked the answers & different places they conflicting. folks
Do a Google search on Maslow hierarchy--you'll find lots of information on the subject.
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amanbhai,

If you do a search here on 'motivation', you will find plenty to read.

First, formulas for each person's motivation could be substantially different. Some take pride in work above advancement and for other, just the opposite. Also, you need to decide for yourself whether you believe 'motivation' is born from within or can be supplied from the outside. For instance, does the offer of money create motivation or movement? Herzberg would state that for some (the poor) it does while for others (the rich) it doesn't. Although I've never read that he made a connection with Maslow's work, his breakdown of money is a near 50/50 split between Hygienic and Motivational factors. Maslow, of course, suggests that money will motivate those who seek food, shelter and security, but once these are achieved, the individual moves towards items supported in Herzbergs theory.

To look at your post, being treated with dignity is a form of respect and recognition. The source: external. Self respect, of course, comes from within, but is this intrinsic motivation or self esteem? I think the latter. As to the feeling of belonging to something, this is intrinsic and in Herzbergs/Maslows theories, a source of intrinsic motivation.

It looks like the quote from the book has successfully muddled the picture. Further, the author might be confused as well. It's difficult to say from just two snippets though.

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I remember reading that snippet about motivation and also being thoroughly confused. I just think that it's poorly written.... as to what he means? I have no idea. :-)
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I just think that it's poorly written
Exactly. If the quote is accurate, I'd like to ask the author how it's possible to treat someone else with self respect.
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