DaimlerChrysler Layered Process Audit Experiences per the DC CSR's

[cdaniels]

For those of you who have implemented a Layered Process Audit process per the DC CSR's, or have a good knowledge of their requirements, I was hoping for some insight on a couple of questions. If this has previously been addressed I apologize. I have searched the forums and not been able to find an answer, any links to previous discussions would be appreciated.

My questions are:

1. How far upstream of your processes did you involve in the LPA's? Did you just focus on the production aspects and go forward or did you go all the way back to receiving and receiving inspection? In the information I have I see that GM lists shipping/receiving in their scope, but I did not see a similar statement by DC.

2. Do you have each layer performing the same audit (ie using the same checklist) or do you have layer 2 making sure layer 1 was performing their audits and layer 3 checking on layer 2, etc. Again I see that GM uses this audit the auditor approach as an example of an LPA process, while DC is not as specific.

Thanks,
Charles

[bgwiehle]

Originally Posted by cdaniels

1. How far upstream of your processes did you involve in the LPA's? Did you just focus on the production aspects and go forward or did you go all the way back to receiving and receiving inspection?
2. Do you have each layer performing the same audit (ie using the same checklist) or do you have layer 2 making sure layer 1 was performing their audits and layer 3 checking on layer 2, etc.

We are using the same LPA approach for both GM & Chrysler products:

Each audit focuses on a particular production process. However, the scope of the audit questions includes the outputs of earlier processes (components, traceability and expiry dates), as well as process set-up, packaging/labels, and operation and inspection steps for the process being audited.

There is no distinction between the checklists for each layer of auditing -- same checklists, just different frequencies. Audit completion and non-conformances are tracked by our software and there is no need to use a higher auditing layer to check that audits are being done. Due to how the audits are scheduled, sometimes there are both layer1 and layer2 audits for a process in the same week and sometimes not.

B.G. Wiehle

[Marc]

This is sorta a duplicate thread. Please carry forward in this thread: DC Layered Process audit experiences per the DC CSR's