The Elsmar Cove Forum and Site Map The Elsmar Cove Wiki More Free Files The Elsmar Cove Forums Discussion Thread Index Post Attachments Listing Failure Modes Services and Solutions to Problems Elsmar cove Forums Main Page Elsmar Cove Home Page

Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > National and International Business Standards > Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards


The Elsmar Cove Forum SideBar!
Monitor the Forum
Monitor New Forum Posts
New Threads Feeds
RSS FeedRSS Feed
Sponsor Link










$ Contributor Forum Access
Courtesy Quick Links

Links that Elsmar Cove visitors will find useful in your quest for knowledge:


Howard's International Quality Services

Atul's Symphony Technologies

Dave Scott's Scott Quality Solutions

Praxiom Research Group


NIST's Engineering Statistics Handbook

IRCA - International Register of Certified Auditors

SAE - Society of Automotive Engineers

Quality Digest Portal

IEST - Institute of Environmental Sciences and Technology

ASQ - American Society for Quality


All the Important Standards and Related Web Sites in the World
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Content Display Modes
  #1  
Old 9th April 1999, 11:59 PM
Marc's Avatar
Marc Marc is offline
Your Elsmar Cove Host

Registration Date: Jan 1996
Location: West Chester, Ohio - USA
Age: 59
 
Posts: 15,859
Thanks Given to Others: 1,895
Thanked 1,568 Times in 1,020 Posts
Blog Entries: 4
Karma Power: 605
Karma: 11569
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Marc Send a message via Skype™ to Marc
Default Ohsas 18001 -- As/nz 4801 -- Une 81900

This doesn't really belong here, but there isn't really a place for it. I'm posting it because of it's 'coordination' with ISO9001.

----------snippo----------

Subject: ANNOUN: Joint News Release - The Development of the OHSAS Docs
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:11:19 -0600
From: ISO Standards Discussion

From: "Vianna, Sidney"
Subject: ANNOUN: Joint News Release - The Development of the OHSAS Docs

OHSAS 18001
Occupational health and safety management systems: - Specification

For some time there has been urgent customer demand for a recognisable occupational health and safety management system specification, for the assessment and certification of OH&S management systems. However, there has been insufficient agreement within the formal standards development processes for the development of a UK national standard, a European standard, or an international standard, in this area (although agreement was eventually reached over the development of BS 8800: 1996 Guide to occupational health and safety management systems). This has led to the development of a number of OH&S management systems specifications, both by national standards bodies and by independent groups. DNV, in association with other national standards bodies, certification bodies, and specialist consultancies, has since decided to try and meet this increasingly urgent customer demand, and to try and harmonize the work in this field. This has resulted in the development of this Occupational Health and Safety Assessment Series (OHSAS) Specification, OHSAS 18001. This standard will be offically released in the UK in April 99.

It is stressed that OHSAS 18001 is not a UK national nor International standard and certification can still only be done on a non-accredited bases. OHSAS 18001 has not been developed through the formal standards development process. Instead, it has been developed by a process that is open to other sponsors wishing to produce similar types of documents in association with BSI, provided that those sponsors are willing to comply with BSI's conditions for such documents. Most of BSI's conditions only apply to the UK.

An accompanying publication, OHSAS 18002 Guidelines for the implementation of OHSAS 18001, is also under development and will be published shortly (June 99).

OHSAS 18001 has been developed to be compatible with the IS0 9001: 1994 (Quality) and IS0 14001: 1996 (Environmental) management systems standards, in order to facilitate the integration of quality, environmental and occupational health and safety management systems by organizations, should they wish to do so.

It is hoped that the application of OHSAS 18001 may provide useful data for the future development of either a UK national OH&S management systems specification standard, or for an international standard.

Participating Parties in Writing of OHSAS 18001 OHSAS 18001 has been developed with the assistance of the following co-operating organizations:

National Standards Authority of Ireland
Standards Australia
South African Bureau of Standards
British Standards Institution
Bureau Veritas Quality International
Det Norske Veritas
Lloyds Register Quality Assurance
National Quality Assurance
SFS Certification
SGS Yarsley International Certification Services
Asociacion Espaola de Normalizacion y Certificacion
International Safety Management Organisation Ltd
Standards and Industry Research Institute of Malaysia-Quality Assurance Services
International Certification Services

Documents referenced during the development of this OHSAS specification:

BS 8800:1996 Guide to occupational health and safety management systems Technical Report NPR 5001: 1997 Guide to an occupational health and safety management system SGS & ISMOL ISA 2000:1997 Requirements for Safety and Health Management Systems BVQI SafetyCert: Occupational Safety and Health Management Standard DNV Standard for Certification of Occupational Health and Safety Management Systems (OHSMS):1997 Draft NSAI SR 320 Recommendation for an Occupational Health and Safety (OH and S) Management System Draft AS/NZ 4801 Occupational health and safety management systems - Specification with guidance for use Draft BS I PAS 088 Occupational health and safety management systems UNE 81900 series of pre-standards on the Prevention of occupational risks Draft LRQA SMS 8800 Health & safety management systems assessment criteria OHSAS 18001 will supersede some of these referenced documents. OHSAS 18001 maintains a high level of compatibility with, and technical equivalence to:

OHSAS 18001 -- AS/NZ 4801 -- UNE 81900

Thanks and Regards,
Sidney Vianna
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 23rd May 1999, 03:17 AM
Marc's Avatar
Marc Marc is offline
Your Elsmar Cove Host

Registration Date: Jan 1996
Location: West Chester, Ohio - USA
Age: 59
 
Posts: 15,859
Thanks Given to Others: 1,895
Thanked 1,568 Times in 1,020 Posts
Blog Entries: 4
Karma Power: 605
Karma: 11569
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Marc Send a message via Skype™ to Marc
Default Ohsas 18001

This is not really 'quality' related per se, but.....

Subject: Re: ANNOUN: The Dev of the OHSAS Doc /Popovici
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:22:33 -0600
From: ISO Standards Discussion

From: "Popovici, Laurian"
Subject: RE: RE: ANNOUN: The Dev of the OHSAS Doc /Popovici

Message for Sidney or anyone else who may have knowledge on this subject:
Did the OHSAS 18001 get released ? If so, can it be obtained somewhere on
the internet?

Thanks,
Laurian Popovici
----------------------------

From: "Vianna, Sidney"
OHSAS 18001
Occupational health and safety management systems: - Specification

For some time there has been urgent customer demand for a recognisable occupational health and safety management system specification, for the assessment and certification of OH&S management systems. However, there has been insufficient agreement within the formal standards development processes for the development of a UK national standard, a European standard, or an international standard, in this area (although agreement was eventually reached over the development of BS 8800: 1996 Guide to occupational health and safety management systems).

This has led to the development of a number of OH&S management systems specifications, both by national standards bodies and by independent groups.

DNV, in association with other national standards bodies, certification bodies, and specialist consultancies, has since decided to try and meet this increasingly urgent customer demand, and to try and harmonize the work in this field. This has resulted in the development of this Occupational Health and Safety Assessment Series (OHSAS) Specification, OHSAS 18001. This standard will be offically released in the UK in April 99.

It is stressed that OHSAS 18001 is not a UK national nor International standard and certification can still only be done on a non-accredited bases.

OHSAS 18001 has not been developed through the formal standards development process. Instead, it has been developed by a process that is open to other sponsors wishing to produce similar types of documents in association with BSI, provided that those sponsors are willing to comply with BSI's conditions for such documents. Most of BSI's conditions only apply to the UK.

An accompanying publication, OHSAS 18002 Guidelines for the implementation of OHSAS 18001, is also under development and will be published shortly (June 99). OHSAS 18001 has been developed to be compatible with the IS0 9001: 1994 (Quality) and IS0 14001: 1996 (Environmental) management systems standards, in order to facilitate the integration of quality, environmental and occupational health and safety management systems by organizations, should they wish to do so.

It is hoped that the application of OHSAS 18001 may provide useful data for the future development of either a UK national OH&S management systems specification standard, or for an international standard.

Participating Parties in Writing of OHSAS 18001 OHSAS 18001 has been developed with the assistance of the following co-operating organizations:

National Standards Authority of Ireland
Standards Australia
South African Bureau of Standards
British Standards Institution
Bureau Veritas Quality International
Det Norske Veritas
Lloyds Register Quality Assurance
National Quality Assurance
SFS Certification
SGS Yarsley International Certification Services
Asociacion Espaola de Normalizacion y Certificacion
International Safety Management Organisation Ltd
Standards and Industry Research Institute of Malaysia-Quality
Assurance Services
International Certification Services

Documents referenced during the development of this OHSAS
specification:

BS 8800:1996 Guide to occupational health and safety management systems
Technical Report NPR 5001: 1997 Guide to an occupational health and
safety management system
SGS & ISMOL ISA 2000:1997 Requirements for Safety and Health
Management Systems
BVQI SafetyCert: Occupational Safety and Health Management Standard
DNV Standard for Certification of Occupational Health and Safety
Management Systems (OHSMS):1997
Draft NSAI SR 320 Recommendation for an Occupational Health and Safety
(OH and S) Management System
Draft AS/NZ 4801 Occupational health and safety management systems -
Specification with guidance for use
Draft BS I PAS 088 Occupational health and safety management systems
UNE 81900 series of pre-standards on the Prevention of occupational
risks
Draft LRQA SMS 8800 Health & safety management systems assessment
criteria

OHSAS 18001 will supersede some of these referenced documents. OHSAS 18001 maintains a high level of compatibility with, and technical equivalence to:

AS/NZ 4801
UNE 81900

Thanks and Regards,
Sidney Vianna
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

  #3  
Old 18th November 1999, 11:21 AM
Don Winton's Avatar
Don Winton Don Winton is offline
dWizard

Registration Date: Nov 1998
Location: Tullahoma, TN
Age: 53
 
Posts: 475
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Karma Power: 63
Karma: 488
Don Winton is appreciated, and has over 400 Karma points.Don Winton is appreciated, and has over 400 Karma points.Don Winton is appreciated, and has over 400 Karma points.Don Winton is appreciated, and has over 400 Karma points.Don Winton is appreciated, and has over 400 Karma points.
Angry

From DNV:

"OHSAS 18001 was created by a number of certification organisations to address the need for a universally applicable and externally verifiable system for safety management. It provides a structured basis for coordinating efforts in health and safety, demonstrating compliance and managing risk."

A search at Alta Vista for "OHSAS 18001" generated 28 pages, most of which I found useless. I suspect this is too new.

Regards,
Don

------------------
Just the ramblings of an Old Wizard Warrior.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2nd December 1999, 12:42 AM
David Mullins's Avatar
David Mullins David Mullins is offline
Aussie Bloke

Registration Date: Nov 1999
Location: Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Age: 47
 
Posts: 495
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts
Karma Power: 51
Karma: 84
David Mullins has less than 100 Karma points so far.
This standard appears to be linked to Det Norske Veritas (DNV). They are the agents of such beasts as the International Safety Rating System and international Environmental Rating System. Apparently over 5000 companies already have endorsed/certified systems under the ISRS program.
I too am seeking information on these topics, and will be approaching DNV for HELP. They are at http://www.dnv.com/
If anyone else can shed more light my bandwidth is waiting.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2nd December 1999, 02:08 AM
David Mullins's Avatar
David Mullins David Mullins is offline
Aussie Bloke

Registration Date: Nov 1999
Location: Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Age: 47
 
Posts: 495
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts
Karma Power: 51
Karma: 84
David Mullins has less than 100 Karma points so far.
By way of a summary of the standard:

REQUIREMENTS OF THE STANDARD
The structure of OHSAS 18001 is in line with the current models for management systems and consists of six sections:

1.General Requirements
This section stipulates that the organisation must establish and maintain an OH&S management system.

2.OH&S Policy
An OH&S policy statement must be produced. It must be appropriate to the organisation and specify a commitment to health and safety.

3.Planning
The organisation must formulate an action plan, with clearly documented procedures to fulfil its OH&S policy.

4.Implementation and Operation
Necessary capabilities and support mechanisms must be developed to achieve the objectives and targets within the organisation's OH&S policy.

5.Checking and Corrective Action
OH&S performance must be measured, monitored and evaluated.

6.Management Review
The standard requires the organisation to review and continually improve its OH&S management system, with the objective of improving its overall safety performance.

This looks like a walk in the park compared to the 3 different systems I have implemented. At the end of the day, all safety systems are aimed at achieving, as a minimum, compliance to relevant Occupational Health & safety legislation.
I HOPE THIS HELPS SOMEBODY!

------------------
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2nd December 1999, 03:21 AM
Randy's Avatar
Randy Randy is offline
Super Moderator

Registration Date: Jun 1999
Location: Greenwood (Ft Smith area), Arkansas, USA
Age: 58
 
Posts: 6,224
Thanks Given to Others: 33
Thanked 1,248 Times in 807 Posts
Karma Power: 397
Karma: 11534
Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via Skype™ to Randy
I heard about this possibly being batted around the ISO world as ISO 18000.

It could create a lot of problems that would even exceed ISO 14000 when it comes to disclosure, documentation, corrective action and other things.

When a standard or potential standard starts overlapping OSHA requirements like we have here in the states the ramifications towards liability of business and management becomes horrendous.

Most US business's that don't want anything to do with ISO 14000 are influenced by the fact that all documents can be inspected by the EPA, who in their infinite wisdom may not accept that organizations corrective actions, aspects, identified impacts, and numerous other thing which are id'd under ISO 14000, thus subjecting them to massive fines and criminal prosecution.

I am an EHS professional. I work with this stuff every day. The concept of a safety management standard is good just like an environmental standard, it's just that here in the US it may be deadly towards business.

Something like this wouldn't be too voluntary. It would really be customer driven, and probably fought all the way by some.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 28th January 2000, 04:56 PM
Randy's Avatar
Randy Randy is offline
Super Moderator

Registration Date: Jun 1999
Location: Greenwood (Ft Smith area), Arkansas, USA
Age: 58
 
Posts: 6,224
Thanks Given to Others: 33
Thanked 1,248 Times in 807 Posts
Karma Power: 397
Karma: 11534
Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Randy is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via Skype™ to Randy
OK guys I have some new info on this topic and need some help.

I was recently interviewed by a prospective new employer who is deeply involved with the ISRS as developed by DNV. The ISRS "International Safety Rating System" is something of a mystery to me and I really want to find out about it because that may give me an edge over the other candidates.

Other than my job prospects, I can certify that US based companies are involved with getting certified under this European management system. I saw the evidence myself.

[This message has been edited by Randy (edited 28 January 2000).]
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30th January 2000, 07:37 PM
David Mullins's Avatar
David Mullins David Mullins is offline
Aussie Bloke

Registration Date: Nov 1999
Location: Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Age: 47
 
Posts: 495
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts
Karma Power: 51
Karma: 84
David Mullins has less than 100 Karma points so far.
ISRS is like a 600 item compliance checklist.
The exact contents are unkown to me, but if you check out the Det Norske Veritas site at:
http://www.dnv.com/
you can identify your nearest DNV office around the globe.
Ask them all about it!
Cheers.


------------------
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation Bar
Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > National and International Business Standards > Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards

Bookmarks


Visitors Currently Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 Registered Visitors and 1 Unregistered Guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Forum Search
Display Modes Rate Thread Content
Rate Thread Content:

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Discussion Threads
Discussion Thread Title Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post or Poll Vote
ANSI/AIHA Z10-2005 specific for Occupational Health and Safety Management System mohameda1979 Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 13 6th October 2009 06:50 PM
OHSMS Non-conformance Procedure - Occupational Health and Safety Management System Johny Goodbye Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 2 14th May 2009 11:28 PM
Status of OHSAS 18001 - Occupational Health and Safety Roger Eastin Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 50 4th January 2006 12:58 AM
What is OHSAS 18001? An auditable Occupational Health & Safety System standard - BSi Dean P. Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 17 19th February 2005 02:35 PM
International Occupational & Health Safety Management System Standard Randy Various Other Specifications, Standards, and related Requirements 9 31st October 2002 07:04 PM



The time now is 07:10 AM. All times are GMT -4.
The time zone can be changed in your UserCP --> Options.



   

All Y'All Come Back Now, Y' Hear?

Made With A Mac! FreeBSD OS Powered by Apache!
Using php4 Forums provided and maintained by Marc Smith Database by MySQL

FAIR USE and CORRECTNESS NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe herein constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. In addition, I do not guarantee the correctness of the content. The risk of using content from the Elsmar Cove web site and forums remains with the user/visitor.

Responsibility Statement: Each person is responsible for anything they post in the Elsmar Cove forum. Neither I, Marc Timothy Smith, nor any of the forum Moderators, are responsible for the content of posts people make. Liability for post content resides with the poster as does interpretation and/or acceptance and/or use of advice by the reader.

Complaints: If you have a complaint with a post in a forum discussion thread, including Content in general, fighting, flaming, copyright infringement, defamation and/or 'slander', please use the 'Report This Post Report This Post Button button which appears at the top of every post in every thread.

Site courtesy of:
Marc Timothy Smith - Cayman Business Systems, 8466 Lesourdsville-West Chester Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069-1929 - USA
(513) 341-6272

To contact me, click the Google Voice link below, enter Your Name and Your Phone Number and Google will ring your phone and connect you for free!

The Elsmar Cove Web Site is *CopyFree*
no new posts