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Re: Are there any requirements in TS 16949 that pertains to business planning?

Dear Dirk

You couldn't be more right. Absolutely ! The quality plans must serve the purpose of business that is highlighted in a Business Plan. You seem to be down to earth. God bless you for serving the TS loving society.

HOD is abbreviation for Head of Department and HIFI stands for BUZZ or Tall-worded, Elegantly worded but non-implementable Business Plan.

Looking for more interaction with a person like you.

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Re: Are there any requirements in TS 16949 that pertains to business planning?

Dear Mr.Anand,
Iam also a consultant working for the past 2 years and would like to throw focus on Business plan.
Since there is no specific requirement for Business plan as was in QS9000, clients are not interested in making a business plan and whatever templates we may give and hence it is difficult to convince.
The auditors ask fior long term and short term business plan which deos not come in any part of the standard. I think we as consultants cannot do too much if the conmpany is not interested in making a business plan since we are unable to show them how a business plan model should be of?
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Re: Are there any requirements in TS 16949 that pertains to business planning?

How does one complete the requirements of 5.4.1.1 in TS 16949 without a Business Plan?

No requirement? There is no requirment for Business Planning in the sense that there are no requiremnts for the process of creating a Business Plan. Certianly there are requirements for planning certain aspects of the business. I got 114 references to the word "Plan" when I searched TS 16949.

I don't see how 5.4.1.1 can be read to NOT require a Business Plan.
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Re: Are there any requirements in TS 16949 that pertains to business planning?

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How does one complete the requirements of 5.4.1.1 in TS 16949 without a Business Plan?

No requirement? There is no requirment for Business Planning in the sense that there are no requiremnts for the process of creating a Business Plan. Certianly there are requirements for planning certain aspects of the business. I got 114 references to the word "Plan" when I searched TS 16949.

I don't see how 5.4.1.1 can be read to NOT require a Business Plan.
I agree... It flat out says so.
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