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I Say... Human Factors & Ergonomics - FAR Part 145.163 'Training Program' - Aviation Industry

What do people think about having a specific area for Human Factors as it is now so critical within the Aviation industry? I'm sure there are lots of you guys and gals out there who are in the industry and have issues associated with Human Factors.

I suppose enough interest may spark the creators of the cove forums to organise it.

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Hi Rich,

As you may be aware, FAR Part 145.163 'Training Program' rule takes affect here in the United States on April 6th this year. Our company hired a full time in-house training manager some time ago to implement such a training program to meet this regulatory requirement.

Human Factors of course, is an integral part of the training program. At this point in time, I'm not sure how the training manager is going about satisfying this requirement. It's is sure to be interesting though.

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I suppose enough interest may spark the creators of the cove forums to organise it.
I'm interested already.

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We can do early development of this thread here in the Aerospace Forum. Given enough interest (traffic) on this topic, I feel certain the 'creators of the cove forums' would organize it.

Thanks for starting this timely thread.
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Human Factors Engineering is a specific area of study that is used in every industry and for evey product which requires the physical interaction between something and a person. In aviation it goes all the way back to the time Castor Oil was used to lubricate engines. Orville and Wilbur had to employ the HFE when they designed flight controls.

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Human Factors Engineering is a specific area of study that is used in every industry and for evey product which requires the physical interaction between something and a person. In aviation it goes all the way back to the time Castor Oil was used to lubricate engines. Orville and Wilbur had to employ the HFE when they designed flight controls.

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Apparently, "Human Factors" is synonymous with "ergonomics." If that's true, why do we see things like Cornell University's Human Factors and Ergonomics Research Group? Is there a difference?
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They are considered to be synonymous for the most part.

HFE is extremely technical and to to get fully involved an understanding of human physiology/physcology is necessary. HFE encompases all factors that can influence human activity to include noise, smell, sight, environmental (heat, cold) and of course touch. Even home interior design requires a sense of HFE understanding and employment. Many times the incorporation of HFE is not identified as such, but it is there never the less.
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What do people think about having a specific area for Human Factors...
You now have a Human Factors forum. Let's see what you and the others do with it.
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The question was asked about what the differences are between Human Factors and Ergonomics, so I emailed Professor Hedge at Cornell based on JSW's link and here is the answer he kindly provided:

In the rest of the world apart from the US, Ergonomics is the overarching discipline. Ergonomics (like medicine) is then organized into various sub-disciplines, two of which are physical ergonomics and cognitive ergonomics. Historically, in the US the term "Human Factors" was used for the discipline instead of "Ergonomics" (the modern version is a UK term) and originally Human Factors and Ergonomics were synonymous. The US professional society is the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society (with over 20 different specailization areas). Sometimes in the US a distinction is still drawn between "human factors", which is seen as focusing more on cognitive ergonomics, and "ergonomics" which is seen as focuseing more on physical ergonomics issues. In part this distinction is still maintained because of the fact that other disciplines (physical therapy, occupational therapy etc.) have begun to call themselves "ergonomists", but they can't be "human factors professionals" without appropriate degrees.
Hope this clarifies things.
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