Switching to new problem solving methodology

[mooi mooi]

Our organisation has been using the KT problem solving method and our management is intending to switch over to 8D methodology
Can anyone out there help me on how can i draw a parallel between these two methods. I mean how could i correlate to the various steps of KT such as Problem analysis, potential problem analysis, situation analysis, decision analysis to the 8D components.
Thanks

[CarolX]

In Reply to Parent Post by mooi mooi

Our organisation has been using the KT problem solving method and our management is intending to switch over to 8D methodology
Can anyone out there help me on how can i draw a parallel between these two methods. I mean how could i correlate to the various steps of KT such as Problem analysis, potential problem analysis, situation analysis, decision analysis to the 8D components.
Thanks

Well, for starters, I never heard of the KT problem solving method - so I did a quick google on it and found that KT stands for Kepner-Tregoe, Inc., a company that provides training and consulting services.

If you search this site, there is a wealth of information on 8D for problem solving. And this board http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=40 is dedicated to corrective action and problem solving tools.

[TNHunter]

I believe this is for Kepner Tregoe Inc. It is just a mixture of problem solving methods that have been combined. Nothing new or ground breaking in it. We looked at this when I worked at another company. Did not go with it. VERY expensive for the training and did not gain anything that 8-D, DMAIC, or even PDAC could not do for us. JMHO

[ralphsulser]

I think 8D, 5 Why, and 5 Principals are all good.
We have one customer that wants 8D, the TS registrar wants 5 Why, another customer wanst 5P

[Howard Atkins]

In Reply to Parent Post by ralphsulser

I think 8D, 5 Why, and 5 Principals are all good.
We have one customer that wants 8D, the TS registrar wants 5 Why, another customer wanst 5P

Why not?

[apestate]

Hello!

Lots of analysis to that KT problem solving.

What are considered the strongest points of KT problem solving? BTW all of these different schema are really similar. The whole constellation of problem solving techniques are simply as opposed to hacking away at situations with no wisdom applied. Without a structure, efforts at solving problems have less focus, less communication, less measureable effects, and less lasting results.

Why is the last discipline of 8D a congratulation of the team? Having dutifully contributed to the employer and business by successfully solving a problem is congratulations enough! I don't understand why the 8D approach gleefully recommends foolish office parties in place of maintaining the changes or restarting the process.

[Claes Gefvenberg]

Hello mooi mooi, and welcome to the Cove

In Reply to Parent Post by mooi mooi

Our organisation has been using the KT problem solving method and our management is intending to switch over to 8D methodology
Can anyone out there help me on how can i draw a parallel between these two methods.

I'm not at all certain that thI suggest a look in the old New to automotive QA - 8D vs Drill Deep - Kindly explain to me what 8D is thread, where KarenD was facing the same situation. Searches for Kepner Tregoe and 8D will dig up many other threads on the subjects.

/Claes

[mooi mooi]

Hi,
Thanks to all of you who have contributed. I think I inputs and insights as to how to go about resolving this issue.
As fo the D8 congratulations discipline, i plan to replace it with " Proliferation to similar processes or products" , similar to the Japanese car maker so called "Curve Sheet" problem solution sheet.
I dont agree that Congratulations need to be documented as part of the 8D process because while we may congratulate the team for resolving the problem, we also tend to chide someone out there who inadvertently created the problem.

Joy to all who participated.