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31st May 2006, 01:44 PM
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So true about compromising yourself, you will quickly resent the employer as they add to your work load which is a dangerous place.
Wes is correct about avoiding a hard edge in your negotiations, considering how dysfunctional this company may be, in the future you may meet up with that HR or VP person during a different job interview!
Been there and grace goes along way -believe me I was happy that when the first job negotiation didn't work out (dodged that bullet) -I left it early because I smelled the future- it was nicely exited! - Good trick when doing a phone interview is to talk into a mirror to make sure you are smiling. The smile actually is conveyed in your voice.
- Salary.com is also another great resource.
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 Just for giggles I went to salary.com to see where my pay range is....Quality Control Inspector II.
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31st May 2006, 01:50 PM
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salary survey....
this might require a new thread but.....
how much stock do you put into the salary survery?...whether ASQ survery or Professional Engineer survey, the salary range seems much higher than the reality.
What is your opinion?
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31st May 2006, 02:00 PM
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this might require a new thread but.....
how much stock do you put into the salary survery?...whether ASQ survery or Professional Engineer survey, the salary range seems much higher than the reality.
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It seems high to me but then again I'm just a quality control inspector
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31st May 2006, 02:12 PM
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It seems high but I thought the data were still easier to believe when the survey broke the salary ranges down to states and not regions. Being lumped with Massachussetts strains the survey's credibility, but I still found it served as a valid negotiating tool when a kind of curve was applied.
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31st May 2006, 03:49 PM
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In Reply to Parent Post by qualeety
this might require a new thread but.....
how much stock do you put into the salary survery?...whether ASQ survery or Professional Engineer survey, the salary range seems much higher than the reality.
What is your opinion?
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As in any survey, the logistics of conducting the survey can often outweigh the style and wording of the questions in determining WHO will reply to the survey. The respondent's motive for taking the time to respond has a big part in validity of results.
These following factors may or may not impact (skew?) the ASQ survey or the 2006 Quality Digest survey, which included an editorial about the huge falloff in numbers of respondents compared to previous surveys. - Mode of survey presentation (fill-in page in magazine, direct mail to membership or subscriber lists, email containing survey, email containg link to on-line survey, phone, handout at industry events, etc.)
- method of dividing respondents into category by job title versus job function
- reluctance of underpaid or overpaid individuals to respond
- difficult comparisons between small and large company employers
- relative job security (folks may take a cut in pay for jobs with long term security and excellent benefits, while others will take riskier positions for higher pay and lower benefits)
- Respondents who may be so depressed over being forced into taking lower pay they eschew replying to even anonymous surveys.
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