Is it true, that for every PPAP made is necessary to do the IMDS register?

[duda_enns]

Hi, I have a question:

Is it true, that for every PPAP made is necessary to do the IMDS register, as PPAP 4 th edition?

Thanks for help

[Mark Paul]

According to most of our Automotive work, yes. But then again, Ford 'updated' phased PPAP doen't ask for it on thier own PSW.
Better safe than sorry though because that's the direction the 16949 crowd seems to be heading.

[D.Scott]

We provide the IMDS number on all PPAP submissions. That doesn't say we re-enter the material in the IMDS data base every time we do a new PPAP. The material in the data base does not change and if it is supplied to various customers, the same IMDS number applies.

Dave

[bgwiehle]

Originally Posted by schmudy

Ford 'updated' phased PPAP doen't ask for it on thier own PSW.

Ford is actually more stringent about IMDS submissions than many other OEMs. And they want that submission much earlier: 6 months before Job 1 date. (Found out about that the hard way!)


B.G. Wiehle

[Bill Ryan]

I'm with Dave - and the new Part Submission Warrant actually requires the number. We only resubmit if there is a print revision change as I believe that is one of the required fields when submitting to IMDS.

[duda_enns]

Thanks for all!

[roland_lu]

Originally Posted by bgwiehle

Ford is actually more stringent about IMDS submissions than many other OEMs. And they want that submission much earlier: 6 months before Job 1 date. (Found out about that the hard way!)


B.G. Wiehle

Really? a hard way!!

GM asks for it if you want to have anything better than saleable status ( Full approval).

Ford in its specific requirements for PPAP 4th edition, Page 3/4, indicates IMDS is only one of the options, up to Ford Material Engineering's preference.

[bgwiehle]

Originally Posted by roland_lu

Really? a hard way!!

Back in early June, with PPAP not until August and print changes still coming through, the Ford SQA communicates that the IMDS submissions for 3 assemblies (same program) were late and he wanted them submitted ASAP. Luckily I had most of the information for the current revison already together and got it done. I'll have to re-submit later because of all the changes.

B.G. Wiehle