Nomenclature that makes you crazy.

[JRKH]

OK it's Monday and Juliov's post about reference only drawings got me thinking.

Does your company use verbiage that just drives you up the wall?

For instance: In my company the saw people use the term scrap for any small pieces left over from cutting a full sheet of material. In my mind these are drops or leftovers, not SCRAP. It's one of those little things that I'll probably never get them to change but it pricks up my ears everytime I hear it.

Sometimes it's the little things that can send you around the bend.

James


Off topic -
Proverb: Never argue with a woman wearing a nicotine patch and chewing 4 sticks of gum. - Just say, "Yes Ma'am" (We have a lady trying to quit right now)

[qualitytrec]

"We do not have an ISO document on how to sweep the floor ( or add your own mundane task)." Using ISO to describe all documents concepts etc... "I am sorry I do not think ISO has a standard for that." Is going to be my response next time I hear this inappropriate use of ISO to try to ram someones poopoo down the orgs throut or jam up the system. We have a 12 page procedure pictures and everything on how to make a box.
Also, ISO (insert your standard) "certified". Please use registered. While some of us are certifiable most of use are not certified just registered.

[Steve McQuality]

In Reply to Parent Post by JRKH

OK it's Monday and Juliov's post about reference only drawings got me thinking.

Does your company use verbiage that just drives you up the wall?

For instance: In my company the saw people use the term scrap for any small pieces left over from cutting a full sheet of material. In my mind these are drops or leftovers, not SCRAP. It's one of those little things that I'll probably never get them to change but it pricks up my ears everytime I hear it.

Sometimes it's the little things that can send you around the bend.

James


Off topic -
Proverb: Never argue with a woman wearing a nicotine patch and chewing 4 sticks of gum. - Just say, "Yes Ma'am" (We have a lady trying to quit right now)

OK, we may be splitting hairs here - but I've worked in and around machine shops and the "leftover" pieces of anything from the lathe to the mill to the chop saw, as long as it couldn't be used to make something else, was refered to as "scrap". I know where you're heading with that thought, but scrap is not just mistakes during assembly that show up on a control chart - that's "non-conforming product".

I was curious, so I went to "Ask.com" and here's what they define as "scrap";

scrap1 (skrăp)
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[Middle English, from Old Norse skrap, trifles, pieces.]

noun

1. A small piece or bit; a fragment
2. Lefover bits of food.
3. Discarded waste material, especially metal suitable for reprocessing.
4. Crisp pieces of rendered aimal fat; cracklings.

transitive verb: scrapped, scrap·ping, scraps.

1. To break down into parts for disposal or salvage.
2. To discard as worthless or sell to be reused as parts; junk.

Of course, I certainly don't want to start a "scrap" with you over this issue Besides, Definition #4 just made me hungry - It's lunch time!

...just poking fun James

[Cari Spears]

I'd like to introduce you to Cari - she does our ISO.

[Randy]

To me a "scrap" was what happened on the road when a Gin Mill Recipient didn't want to take a ride to the PD.

More often than not it lead to him being scraped off the road

[Steve McQuality]

In Reply to Parent Post by Cari Spears

I'd like to introduce you to Cari - she does our ISO.

...but do you do Windows? I laughed out loud on that one!!

[Scott Catron]

In our pharm operations it's the use of the term "rework" when what is meant is "reprocessing". These mean two different processes to the FDA.

[JRKH]

In Reply to Parent Post by Steve McQuality

OK, we may be splitting hairs here - but I've worked in and around machine shops and the "leftover" pieces of anything from the lathe to the mill to the chop saw, as long as it couldn't be used to make something else, was refered to as "scrap". I know where you're heading with that thought, but scrap is not just mistakes during assembly that show up on a control chart - that's "non-conforming product".

I was curious, so I went to "Ask.com" and here's what they define as "scrap";

scrap1 (skrăp)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Middle English, from Old Norse skrap, trifles, pieces.]

noun

1. A small piece or bit; a fragment
2. Lefover bits of food.
3. Discarded waste material, especially metal suitable for reprocessing.
4. Crisp pieces of rendered aimal fat; cracklings.

transitive verb: scrapped, scrap·ping, scraps.

1. To break down into parts for disposal or salvage.
2. To discard as worthless or sell to be reused as parts; junk.

Of course, I certainly don't want to start a "scrap" with you over this issue Besides, Definition #4 just made me hungry - It's lunch time!

...just poking fun James

Rear Mr. Hairsplitter,
You certainly know your stuff.
In my mind a pc that equals 1/4 of a 4 x 8 foot sheet of material is a little big to be called "scrap". Plus, the fact that being in quality, Scrap has a whole different meaning to me. It means "It ain't fixable".

Got a good chuckle out of you post though.

James