ASQ's Lean Division - Any insight into the happenings with ASQ's Lean division?

[wmarhel]

I was just wondering if anyone here has any insight into the happenings with ASQ's Lean division? It is pretty quiet over there and has been for the past year. I remember some initial contact back in October '05 regarding the BOK, and a few rounds of e-mails and then nothing. I had some e-mail correspondence, and a phone conversation earlier this year with Linda regarding the lack of communication after failed attempts at contacting the chair at that point in time.

Wayne

[BradM]

Hey, Wayne!

Good question. Bill, Wes, Wesley, and others probably have a bit more of an 'inside' track than I. There are several forums that seem to have waned in activity. Not sure if individuals don't know they exist, don't feel there is adequate assistance available, etc. It's possible that many have wisely utilized the search functions and found their answers (this site and ASQ).

Good moderators make a huge difference. I have said this before: Thank you to all those who put in the time to keep the forums professional and useful.

[Jim Wynne]

Originally Posted by wmarhel

I was just wondering if anyone here has any insight into the happenings with ASQ's Lean division? It is pretty quiet over there and has been for the past year. I remember some initial contact back in October '05 regarding the BOK, and a few rounds of e-mails and then nothing. I had some e-mail correspondence, and a phone conversation earlier this year with Linda regarding the lack of communication after failed attempts at contacting the chair at that point in time.

Wayne

On ASQ's site there's a "Chair's Message" that says in part,

We are on the way to becoming a full division of ASQ. The paperwork is submitted and approved by the Division Affairs Council. We are awaiting ASQ board approval.

Similar to what Wes said in June of this year in this post here at the Cove:

My fellow ASQ members of the Lean "Forum" (soon to be upgraded to "Division" status - mainly a bookkeeping thing within ASQ) are still struggling with creating a Body of Knowledge for Lean because there is no consensus of how to implement Lean.

There's this list of forum leaders on the ASQ site; perhaps one of them can shed some light.

[wmarhel]

Jim, I'm aware of that message, but that page was last updated in July. Three months later and no news on any of it.

As I mentioned, I had initial correspondence regarding the BOK in October '05 with either George Alukal or Tony Manos (I'd have to check my e-mail). I also had contact with Linda Malinowski regarding the lack of communication (basically none) within the division. I also made an attempt to contact Bob Johnson regarding the BOK back on July 13th.

Wayne

[Jim Wynne]

Originally Posted by wmarhel

Jim, I'm aware of that message, but that page was last updated in July. Three months later and no news on any of it.

As I mentioned, I had initial correspondence regarding the BOK in October '05 with either George Alukal or Tony Manos (I'd have to check my e-mail). I also had contact with Linda Malinowski regarding the lack of communication (basically none) within the division. I also made an attempt to contact Bob Johnson regarding the BOK back on July 13th.

Wayne

I just sent an e-mail message to everyone listed at the link I provided earlier, telling them that this discussion was going on, and inviting them to drop in here and comment. We'll see what happens.

[Steve Prevette]

I'm afraid that ASQ Lean is repeating some of the Six Sigma history. The folks pushing the Forum/Division are not technically knowledgeable of what is Lean, it is just the latest fad/buzzword/way to make inroads/way to make money. The fact that they can't come up with a BOK is very telling.

[wmarhel]

Thanks for the commentary Steve. The posting, of which a similar question was posed in the ASQ Lean Discussion Forum, stems from an impression that there has been no real activity in over a year. It's possible that my perception is completely unfounded, but it is based on the attempts I've made towards developing a BOK and the communications I've attempted.

At the least, it should be interesting to see what develops, in this forum as well as ASQ's.

Wayne

[Jim Wynne]

Originally Posted by wmarhel

Thanks for the commentary Steve. The posting, of which a similar question was posed in the ASQ Lean Discussion Forum, stems from an impression that there has been no real activity in over a year. It's possible that my perception is completely unfounded, but it is based on the attempts I've made towards developing a BOK and the communications I've attempted.

At the least, it should be interesting to see what develops, in this forum as well as ASQ's.

Wayne

I've had one response to my e-mail, and it indicates that there is some movement going on. My correspondent, who shall remain nameless for the present time, apparently missed my link to this thread and my invitation to participate here, so I made a second request. Stay tuned.