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14th March 2001, 02:43 PM
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Machine Capability Studies: How many parts needed?
I'm looking but not finding a general statement anywhere here stating exactly how many parts should be checked as a general guideline for a machine capability study. Any body?
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14th March 2001, 03:18 PM
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Hello Dawn,
The rule of thumb as stated in both the SPC manual is “25 or more subgroups containing about 100 or more individual readings give a good test for stability and, if stable, good estimates of the process location and spread”.
This can be found in SPC manual pg 31.
The PPAP manual states: “… at least 100 individual samples…”
This can be found in PPAP manual pg 6.
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14th March 2001, 04:06 PM
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Dawn,
I'm not sure if you will find a definitive standard. The guidelines in the AIAG manual are at the best "adequate"
What I like to consider is the product being produced, the tools used, and cycle time. At a minimum I would consistantly graph 5 samples per subgroup during and 8 hour continuous production cycle.
This is not to mean inspect every part, just measure and plot one group and when that is done get the next 5 pieces, production continues while you are doing the study.
This is probably labor intensive but by doing it through 1 or 2 production shifts you will be able to get a handle on both random and assignable causes of variation.
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15th March 2001, 09:56 AM
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I agree that the SPC Reference Manual and the PPAP Manual quantities are pretty standard.
Here is a method based on an article called "Recent Developments in Process Capability Analysis" by Robert N. Rodriguez (JQT, October, 1992)
I'll show it in Excel format:
XX=DELTA-NORMSINV(A/100)*SQRT((1/(9*N))+(CPK^2/(2*(N-1))))
where
A is the Type I confidence level expressed as a percentage, typically 90 or 95, {0<B<A<100}. n increases as A increases.
CPK is the upper bound estimate of the Cpk, n increases as the CPK estimate increases.
DELTA is the desired resolution. Half-width of the desired one-sided lower confidence interval. n increases as DELTA decreases toward zero.
In all the above inputs, if unsure, use the more conservative value - the one that would provide the larger sample size n.
N is a proposed sample size that will be evaluated using the XX value.
Start with N = N' shown below:
N'=CEILING(NORMSINV(A/100)^2*(1/9+CPK^2/2)/DELTA^2,1)
Increase the value of N by integers until the smallest positive value for XX is obtained. The resulting N is the recommended sample size, n. Of course this assumed normality.
Typically the final number n is simply N'+1.
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15th March 2001, 11:06 AM
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We typically use a minimum of 25 subgroups. Most of the customers for special machines we build ask for 25 subgroups of 5.
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15th March 2001, 12:28 PM
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Thanks!
If you are running a study for 8 hours, 20 hours, 24 hours, etc., is this without ANY adjustments?
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15th March 2001, 02:27 PM
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Dawn,
That is with adjustments and are noted on the control chart as a reference.
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16th March 2001, 01:05 AM
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Capability indices can be divided into two categories: short-term and long term. Short-term capability studies are based on measurements taken from one operating run (the time frame could vary depending your particular production process). The data are analyzed with a control chart for evidence that the process is operating in a state of statistical control. If no special causes are found (a machine adjustment could be considered as a special cause), a short-term capability index can be calculated. This type of study is often used to validate the initial parts produced from a process for customer submission. Another use is for machine capability studies.
Long-term capability studies consist of measurement consist of measurements that are collected over a longer period of time. The data should be collected for long enough, and in such a way, as to include all expected sources of variation.
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