Top gun Quallity Ranking Gurus at Elsmar Cove.

[jrubio]

Dear Marc.

Why do not you create a dynamic Ranking Thanked received list?

In order to see the ranking of Top gun Quality Gurus.


i.e:

Ranking Name. Thanked

xx Javier Rubio 124

Regards

[Jennifer Kirley]

Respectfully, the Deminguite in me shrinks from ranking by thanks. While the idea is an earnest one, I feel the thanks may appear arbitrarily in accordance with, among other things:

1. The poster's time and resource constraints to posting in depth and with research.

2. Writing ability and communication methods that are appreciated in variation although the knowledge behind the comments is profound.

3. Different readers' inclination to toss the little bone of thanks to different subjects. Some more, some less. That doesn't measure value.

4. Was the message even read by the person who needs it most? We don't know.

I do check my thanks and even allow it to help me know what types of comments are best received.

I've never been a good candidate for a beauty contest, either physically or intellectually, and I was always picked last for ball games. Here, however, I feel valued. No need to rank my thanks for further proof.

[Steve Prevette]

I agree with Jennifer's post, and would submit that personally I like the Cove since it is a cooperative effort , rather than a competetive effort.

Interestingly, Christopher Paris has an email on the ASQ discussion boards complaining about the use of the word "guru". http://www.asq.org/discussionBoards/...ID=67007#67007 (it's in a members only board). His point is "guru" is more of a religious term.

I'd rather avoid the "me for number 1" game.

[Jim Wynne]

Originally Posted by Steve Prevette

I agree with Jennifer's post, and would submit that personally I like the Cove since it is a cooperative effort , rather than a competetive effort.

As David Letterman says, "This is an exhibition, not a competition, so please--no wagering."

Originally Posted by Steve Prevette

Interestingly, Christopher Paris has an email on the ASQ discussion boards complaining about the use of the word "guru"... His point is "guru" is more of a religious term.

Pffft. He might have a point if we suddenly started referring to Deming and Juran as "rabbis," but I don't think there's much danger of anyone thinking that Phil Crosby is a Hindu spiritual teacher.

[ScottK]

Originally Posted by Steve Prevette

Interestingly, Christopher Paris has an email on the ASQ discussion boards complaining about the use of the word "guru". http://www.asq.org/discussionBoards/...ID=67007#67007 (it's in a members only board). His point is "guru" is more of a religious term.

last I checked "guru" was about as secular in common English usage as the word "cross".

I guess he'd have us not crossing out our mistakes or being cross with litigious nitpickers.

[justncredible]

Juran, Deming, and a few others are Gurus of quality dy definition

http://www.answers.com/topic/guru

Asq, has lost any respect they had with trying to push the soicalist agenda.

As for here, no top dogs, and if there was you have a sure bet it would not be a 2 bit consultant..........

[BradM]

A good, thought-provoking thread. While the concept is inviting, and appears to offer visitors assistance, I might shy away from the rankings:


1. We simply don’t know all the facets of the situation of a poster. Therefore, we may all read “Joes-5000” brilliant post, and among the ‘in-crowd’, we mete out a well-deserved “thanks”. This is due to the fact that we may understand their level of involvement with the post, the time in research they spent, etc. This is one type of well-deserved “thanks”.

When in actuality, though, the most helpful post was from Juanita, who has posted four times. The original poster may take their treasure and run; never returning to Juanita to give her the credit she is due.

2. I think keeping a running total of posts and thanks are nice. However, one thing I really like about the Cove is there is, for the most part, no “well, I have a degree in xxxx”, “I have yyy certifications”, “excuse me, look at my # of posts”, etc. Because for the most part, someone’s hard earned, school of hard knocks experience is what makes them valuable.

3. Many of the best, most helpful posts have told individuals what they needed to hear, but did not want to hear. These folks most probably never got a “thanks”.

Since I started with the Cove, everyone always took what I posted on face value, and for the content. Apart from a few who had seen my posts from ASQ, no one here knew anything about me. Yet, I was valued by my thoughts, and not by my rank. I would encourage keeping that value system.

[Randy]

Originally Posted by BradM

Since I started with the Cove, everyone always took what I posted on face value, and for the content. Apart from a few who had seen my posts from ASQ, no one here knew anything about me. Yet, I was valued by my thoughts, and not by my rank.

Where'd you get that idea? I just like the fact that you're from Texas and don't really pay much attention to what you say.