Split the forum - ISO Fans vs. ISO Foes

[Paul Simpson]

Here's a tongue in cheek suggestion.

Why don't we have two threads running -

• one for the fans of ISO 9001 who believe it has to be implemented in its spirit and aligned with the organisation etc.
• one for the anti ISO brigade who have to suffer it because it exists in their company and are only interested in getting through the periodic audits with as little fuss as possible

Perhaps then we will get over some of the running battles that seem to run through the cove - or is it only the threads I subscribe to?

[CarolX]

Paul,

I moved your thread to this board, as this is the appropriate place to discuss this.

I don't think the ISO issue is that black and white. Yes, there are those that "do it" just for the piece of paper, and others that believe it is the holy grail - but I think most of us fall somewhere in between.

Just my .

[ScottK]

I think that would be more a more appropriate action for 6 Sigma threads.

I love ISO9000 and all other QMS systems you can register to.
It keeps me employed.

[Paul Simpson]

Originally Posted by CarolX

Paul,

I moved your thread to this board, as this is the appropriate place to discuss this.

I don't think the ISO issue is that black and white. Yes, there are those that "do it" just for the piece of paper, and others that believe it is the holy grail - but I think most of us fall somewhere in between.

Just my .

Not sure I agree it is the most approriate place, Carol but I'll go with your judgement.

I agree it isn't a black and white issue - there are bits of ISO that even I think are given undue attention and could be better described. My point is that there are broadly two camps - those who think ISO is a good thing and those that suffer it.

As I said my tongue was firmly in my cheek!

[Wes Bucey]

Originally Posted by Paul Simpson

Here's a tongue in cheek suggestion.

Why don't we have two threads running -

• one for the fans of ISO 9001 who believe it has to be implemented in its spirit and aligned with the organisation etc.
• one for the anti ISO brigade who have to suffer it because it exists in their company and are only interested in getting through the periodic audits with as little fuss as possible

Perhaps then we will get over some of the running battles that seem to run through the cove - or is it only the threads I subscribe to?

All this time, I thought that bulge in your cheek was a chaw of tobacco or a toothache!

[crendfrey]

Originally Posted by Paul Simpson

Perhaps then we will get over some of the running battles that seem to run through the cove - or is it only the threads I subscribe to?

While you DID SAY toung and cheek......

I for one truly appreciate the "running battles".
Differences of opinion and interpretation whether lively or sedate seem to give me the most insight on solving my particular issues when they appear.
The well thought out diversities allow me to form my own resolutions that will work best in my company.
After all, is that not what this forum is all about?
I am grateful to each of you whether I agree with you or not.

Just my humble thoughts

[Tupham]

Originally Posted by Paul Simpson

Why don't we have two threads running -

Nooooo! Don't do that! I learn a lot by comparing the differences of opinion as well as the insights I get from the gurus who agree but interpret in various ways.

[Sidney Vianna]

Originally Posted by crendfrey

Differences of opinion and interpretation whether lively or sedate seem to give me the most insight on solving my particular issues when they appear.
The well thought out diversities allow me to form my own resolutions that will work best in my company.
After all, is that not what this forum is all about?

Yes, it is. While net decorum is necessary, the lively clash of ideas permeates the most interesting threads in this website. How boring would the Cove be if we only had yes-men.

My opinionswrong opinions.