Non-conforming product = Scrap???

[LHJRISO]

If the product or components are non-conforming and can't ever be re-worked or salvaged, why not just scrap them? What's the point of a non-conforming area? Did I just answer my own question again?

[Bobh@pte]

The point of the area is to quarantine until disposition is determined.
Separate from the good stuff - make sure it doesn't get to the customer.

[qualeety]

In Reply to Parent Post by LHJRISO

If the product or components are non-conforming and can't ever be re-worked or salvaged, why not just scrap them? What's the point of a non-conforming area? Did I just answer my own question again?

you are good...

however, your gabage can be someone else's treasure....before you scrap them, you should search for other buyers/usages...remember, it is costly to throw the scrap in the landfill.


btw, what are you throwing away?

[SteelMaiden]

In Reply to Parent Post by qualeety

you are good...

however, your gabage can be someone else's treasure....before you scrap them, you should search for other buyers/usages...remember, it is costly to throw the scrap in the landfill.


btw, what are you throwing away?

just for the record, just because the op is "scrapping" nonconforming material that cannot be reworked (and i assume it cannot be downgraded) it does not necessarily mean that it is going to a landfill. Many operations take scrap and re-use it as raw material for new batches. (chopped up, melted down, etc.) One would hope that the poster's organization has looked into all methods of disposal, including selling scrapped parts as-is, which is part of that "down-grading" or selling secondary, or whatever their industry calls it.

[Bev D]

In Reply to Parent Post by Bobh@pte

The point of the area is to quarantine until disposition is determined.
Separate from the good stuff - make sure it doesn't get to the customer.

and to execute the dispositon.
until 'scrap' is actually physically disposed of or rendered useless the material is still available for dumpster diving.

and for some industries (aerospace and defense) the part can't be simply put in a dumpster; it has to be rendered useless.

[Helmut Jilling]

In Reply to Parent Post by LHJRISO

If the product or components are non-conforming and can't ever be re-worked or salvaged, why not just scrap them? What's the point of a non-conforming area? Did I just answer my own question again?

The point of an NC hold area is for NC product that has not already been determined to be scrap. Once you decide it is scrap, there is no need to put it on NC hold status.

However, the other comments about dumpster diving and recyling should also be considered.

[fireonce]

Our scrap products are always sold to other companies.

[qcman]

I find myself using the term non conforming when I really should be saying suspect material. It really is suspected of being non conforming until it's verified as non conforming. Once found to be NC it then is determined if it can be reworked/reformed into conforming material. If it can not be brought into conformance it is then sold (aluminum extrusions)as scrap.