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What is the difference between ISO 9001:2000 and TS16949?


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Old 28th August 2007, 12:36 PM
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Question What is the difference between ISO 9001:2000 and TS16949?

I have been contacted by a company that wants either Ts or ISO9000/2000I guess what I wnt to know is there any big difference between the two?

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Old 28th August 2007, 12:41 PM
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I have been contacted by a company that wants either Ts or ISO9000/2000I guess what I wnt to know is there any big difference between the two?
Without going into all the specifics of the difference, TS includes all of ISO 9000/2000 + additional requirements. So, if they are giving you a choice,,, I would go with ISO 9000/2000.
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Old 28th August 2007, 12:44 PM
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Re: ISO9000/2000 or TS16949

TS 16949 is an automotive standard, the replacement for QS9000. You're only supposed to register for TS if you supply to automotive customers, or are an upstream supplier for someone who makes automotive products.

It is based on ISO 9000, but adds special requirements that automotive has asked for. Some of the requirements are prescriptive. This thread compares the systems' requirements side by side.
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Old 28th August 2007, 01:48 PM
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I have been contacted by a company that wants either Ts or ISO9000/2000I guess what I wnt to know is there any big difference between the two?
Just out of curiosity, what do you mean you were contacted by a company? Are you a consultant?

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Old 28th August 2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: What is the difference between ISO 9001:2000 and TS16949?

TS 16949 is just ISO 9000 with an attitude.

In reality, the requirement is about 30% more difficult than the ISO requirement and is more restrictive. There is a bit of the "automotive game" applied such as R & R studies to process and not specification, heavier on SPC ,etc.
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Old 28th August 2007, 09:48 PM
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Re: What is the difference between ISO 9001:2000 and TS16949?

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I have been contacted by a company that wants either Ts or ISO9000/2000 I guess what I want to know is there any big difference between the two?
Hi Bluejay,

The answer is very simple. Do you have (or have access to) the ISO/TS 16949:2002 Technical Specification? The document contains both ISO 9001:2000 and the automotive requirements. The ISO 9001:2000 requirements are printed in a box. The text outside the box are automotive additions.

Hope this helps.

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Old 29th August 2007, 11:29 AM
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Some customers have additional requirements to the TS standard. For example, Chrysler, Ford, GM, Timken, Delphi, Visteon all have 'extra' things they want their supplier to do, when conforming to TS. If your customer is one of these, or, indeed, is a supplier themselves they may pass these extra OEM requirements to you, too.

This makes TS more specific (and in some cases more exacting) over ISO 9001:2000, too.
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Old 29th August 2007, 11:31 AM
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Some customers have additional requirements to the TS standard. For example, Chrysler, Ford, GM, Timken, Delphi, Visteon all have 'extra' things they want their supplier to do, when conforming to TS. If your customer is one of these, or, indeed, is a supplier themselves they may pass these extra OEM requirements to you, too.

This makes TS more specific (and in some cases more exacting) over ISO 9001:2000, too.
Hi Andy,

Excellent points! Very true!

Stijloor.
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