The Elsmar Cove Forum and Site Map The Elsmar Cove Wiki More Free Files The Elsmar Cove Forums Discussion Thread Index Post Attachments Listing Failure Modes Services and Solutions to Problems Elsmar cove Forums Main Page Elsmar Cove Home Page

Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Common Quality Assurance Processes and Tools > Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis > Quality Assurance and Compliance Software Tools / Solutions > Using Minitab Software


The Elsmar Cove Forum SideBar!
Monitor the Forum
Monitor New Forum Posts
New Threads Feeds
RSS FeedRSS Feed
Sponsor Link










$ Contributor Forum Access
Courtesy Quick Links

Links that Elsmar Cove visitors will find useful in your quest for knowledge:


Howard's International Quality Services

Atul's Symphony Technologies

Dave Scott's Scott Quality Solutions

Praxiom Research Group


NIST's Engineering Statistics Handbook

IRCA - International Register of Certified Auditors

SAE - Society of Automotive Engineers

Quality Digest Portal

IEST - Institute of Environmental Sciences and Technology

ASQ - American Society for Quality


All the Important Standards and Related Web Sites in the World
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Content Display Modes
  #1  
Old 18th September 2007, 03:50 PM
Ron Rompen's Avatar
Ron Rompen Ron Rompen is offline
Involved - Posts

Registration Date: Oct 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ontario Canada
Age: 54
 
Posts: 208
Thanks Given to Others: 5
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Karma Power: 46
Karma: 1068
Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Ron Rompen
Please Help! MSA to perform Linearity and Stability studies on Variable Gauges with Minitab Ver 15

I am trying to create a template (and associated work instruction) to perform Linearity and Stability studies on variable gauges in our plant, using Minitab Ver 15.

I have attempted several times to follow the instructions on the 'Help' menu, but have not been able to duplicate their results.

Has anyone here developed a template and work instruction that they would be willing to share?
__________________
Ron S Rompen
Goju Ryu
Kitchener, Ontario

Do other dogs think that poodles are members of some strange religious cult?
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 18th September 2007, 05:06 PM
David DeLong's Avatar
David DeLong David DeLong is offline
Courtesy Access

Registration Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brantford, Ontario
 
Posts: 336
Thanks Given to Others: 22
Thanked 135 Times in 100 Posts
Karma Power: 37
Karma: 1070
David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.David DeLong is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.
Default Re: MSA with Minitab Ver 15

Ron:

I may not be able to help you on minitab but I do question why you would want to do stability testing. As a 2nd tier supplier, you should be performing R & R studies on family of gauges shown in the Control Plans.

As far as linearity, that is part of the calibration programme and I, again, question why minitab is of value.

Just some questions from a guy who has been consulting in 1st and 2nd tier automotive for quite a while.
__________________
Dave DeLong
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

  #3  
Old 18th September 2007, 05:48 PM
Ron Rompen's Avatar
Ron Rompen Ron Rompen is offline
Involved - Posts

Registration Date: Oct 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ontario Canada
Age: 54
 
Posts: 208
Thanks Given to Others: 5
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Karma Power: 46
Karma: 1068
Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Ron Rompen
Default Re: MSA with Minitab Ver 15

We are Tier II/Tier I, and it has been 'suggested' to us that we comply with this requirement going forward. As well, we will be supplying Chrysler directly next year, so I want to get a good head start on it.
__________________
Ron S Rompen
Goju Ryu
Kitchener, Ontario

Do other dogs think that poodles are members of some strange religious cult?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18th September 2007, 07:02 PM
Miner's Avatar
Miner Miner is offline
Forum Moderator

Registration Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wisconsin
 
Posts: 1,840
Thanks Given to Others: 166
Thanked 670 Times in 457 Posts
Blog Entries: 9
Karma Power: 251
Karma: 9207
Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Default Re: MSA with Minitab Ver 15

Not sure what you mean by a template, but attached is the data entry format and results from Minitab 15's sample data set. The blue ZERO line should fall entirely within the red CI lines for the gage to be considered acceptable.
Attached Files: 1. Scan for viruses before using, 2. Please report any 'bad' files by Reporting the post it is in, 3. Use at your Own Risk.
File Type: pdf Gage Linearity.pdf (25.6 KB, 127 views)
__________________
"A fool can learn from his own experiences; the wise learn from the experience of others." - Democritus, 460-370 B.C.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18th September 2007, 08:59 PM
Yew Jin's Avatar
Yew Jin Yew Jin is offline
Involved - Posts

Registration Date: Aug 2006
Location: Penang, Malaysia
 
Posts: 193
Thanks Given to Others: 23
Thanked 41 Times in 33 Posts
Karma Power: 29
Karma: 600
Yew Jin is appreciated, and has over 500 Karma points.Yew Jin is appreciated, and has over 500 Karma points.Yew Jin is appreciated, and has over 500 Karma points.Yew Jin is appreciated, and has over 500 Karma points.Yew Jin is appreciated, and has over 500 Karma points.Yew Jin is appreciated, and has over 500 Karma points.
Let Me Help You Re: MSA to perform Linearity and Stability studies on Variable Gauges with Minitab Ve

We may always go to the examples that provided in the help files and look into the specific worksheet that used in the example. From there we will gain the data stacking knowledge for any study in Minitab.
__________________
____________________________________________
failing to plan is planning to fail ~ Joseph Juran
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 19th September 2007, 12:27 PM
Ron Rompen's Avatar
Ron Rompen Ron Rompen is offline
Involved - Posts

Registration Date: Oct 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ontario Canada
Age: 54
 
Posts: 208
Thanks Given to Others: 5
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Karma Power: 46
Karma: 1068
Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.Ron Rompen is appreciated, and has over 900 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Ron Rompen
Default Re: MSA to perform Linearity and Stability studies on Variable Gauges with Minitab Ve

Thanks for the data set; for some reason it hadn't installed on my system. I will run through it, and see what kind of result I get.
__________________
Ron S Rompen
Goju Ryu
Kitchener, Ontario

Do other dogs think that poodles are members of some strange religious cult?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 19th September 2007, 02:28 PM
Miner's Avatar
Miner Miner is offline
Forum Moderator

Registration Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wisconsin
 
Posts: 1,840
Thanks Given to Others: 166
Thanked 670 Times in 457 Posts
Blog Entries: 9
Karma Power: 251
Karma: 9207
Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Miner is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Default Re: MSA to perform Linearity and Stability studies on Variable Gauges with Minitab Ve

It probably is loaded on your system, but you need to use the Open Worksheet command, not the Open Project command. Most sample data sets are saved as Worksheets.
__________________
"A fool can learn from his own experiences; the wise learn from the experience of others." - Democritus, 460-370 B.C.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation Bar
Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Common Quality Assurance Processes and Tools > Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis > Quality Assurance and Compliance Software Tools / Solutions > Using Minitab Software

Bookmarks


Visitors Currently Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 Registered Visitors and 1 Unregistered Guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Forum Search
Display Modes Rate Thread Content
Rate Thread Content:

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Discussion Threads
Discussion Thread Title Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post or Poll Vote
If I do Linearity and Bias Studies, are Stability Studies Required? samiv Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 5 22nd November 2007 11:20 AM
MSA - Can Regular Calibration Replace Bias, Linearity and Stability Studies? darkafar Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 3 23rd August 2006 11:46 PM
Do we need to perform Stability, Linearity & Bias study for Attribute data? Anatta Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 3 21st April 2006 09:37 AM
Is minitab 'AIAG compliant' to perform GR&R, linearity and bias study? Anatta Using Minitab Software 4 18th April 2006 05:52 PM
MSA Tools - Excel templates for doing the Linearity & Bias, & Stability Studies Courier Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 6 23rd October 2004 08:07 AM



The time now is 09:34 AM. All times are GMT -4.
The time zone can be changed in your UserCP --> Options.



   

All Y'All Come Back Now, Y' Hear?

Made With A Mac! FreeBSD OS Powered by Apache!
Using php4 Forums provided and maintained by Marc Smith Database by MySQL

FAIR USE and CORRECTNESS NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe herein constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. In addition, I do not guarantee the correctness of the content. The risk of using content from the Elsmar Cove web site and forums remains with the user/visitor.

Responsibility Statement: Each person is responsible for anything they post in the Elsmar Cove forum. Neither I, Marc Timothy Smith, nor any of the forum Moderators, are responsible for the content of posts people make. Liability for post content resides with the poster as does interpretation and/or acceptance and/or use of advice by the reader.

Complaints: If you have a complaint with a post in a forum discussion thread, including Content in general, fighting, flaming, copyright infringement, defamation and/or 'slander', please use the 'Report This Post Report This Post Button button which appears at the top of every post in every thread.

Site courtesy of:
Marc Timothy Smith - Cayman Business Systems, 8466 Lesourdsville-West Chester Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069-1929 - USA
(513) 341-6272

To contact me, click the Google Voice link below, enter Your Name and Your Phone Number and Google will ring your phone and connect you for free!

The Elsmar Cove Web Site is *CopyFree*
no new posts