AIAG Rollout meeting - ISO16949

[Roger Eastin]

I see in the latest ActionLine magazine that the AIAG is having a "Rollout Workshop" on ISO16949 on 13 December. Anyone going? I also see that it says in the text that the IATF has already developed (and apparently ready to discuss) 3rd party registration schemes. I guess they also have ready the Customer-specific requirements. The workshop lasts 2.5 hours. I wonder how much can be shared in that amount of time?

[Marc]

Where is it? How much? Only 2.5 hours? That's a 'workshop'?

I might go if it's up in Detroit if any of you want to meet there or something.

[Roger Eastin]

The "Workshop" is in Novi, Michigan (I assume this is close to Detroit), costs $125.00, and is scheduled for 13 December. You have your choice of a morning or afternoon session! I have to believe that this will be a "spoon-feed" session with some questions at the end of it. Since I live in South Carolina, it's hard to justify flying to a 2.5 hour seminar in Detroit, but, heck, if you are close to Detroit, it's probably worth it.

[Marc]

Well - it's 'sorta close' (well, 4 hours driving 1 way from Cincinnati) and if I'm not busy... I might. Could you please FAX me the info page you have?

Eastern Michigan University is offering a 2 day class on 16949. I am signed up for the class on 11/22 and 11/23/99.
This class is in Ypsilanti (due west of Detroit) about 1 hour normal drive time or 15 minutes Detroit type driving drive time


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[Marc]

I hate to pay the AIAG. But then - they get their 'cut' one way or another. Lemme see. At their Novi 'Workshop' (I wondwer how these QS folks define Workshop!!!!) 500 souls per session times 2 sessions times US$125 = US$125,000.00 [to me US$125000 is real money...]. What can they tell you in 2 hours, pray tell?

Their cost = Not quite US$125,000.00 I betcha.

Ummm - think this is a ripoff or what!?!

I've decided to listen to the grapevine.

What's EMU charging and what's their 'agenda'?

[Roger Eastin]

I don't blame you for looking at the EMU seminar. However, I wonder with the "Heavies" (Steve Walsh,etc) speaking at the AIAG seminar whether they will have more information. I have read the 16949 standard and it isn't that much different than QS so my questions have to do more with customer-specific requirements (as well as PPAP,etc) and the auditor requirements than with the standard itself. Still, I know all that will be hard to cover in 2.5 hours. Of course, Lansing is no closer than Novi to South Carolina so I guess I'll just listen to those of you who are closer (and go to one of the seminars)!

[Howard Atkins]

The same for me, please let us have a report.
Israel is even further than South Carolina
Howard