Calibration is due, but the tool has not been used.

[Matt M]

Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to get some of your thoughts on this. I have thread plug gauges that have come due for calibration. The wax seal from the last calibration is still intact. Is it acceptable to re-date them or do they need to be re-calibrated. I appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks
Matt

[SteveK]

Hi Reflex,

I am assuming you have calibration certificates with the gauges i.e. from an accredited external test house. If this is the case and you are audited e.g for ISO 13485 etc, I think the auditor (from my experience) would want to see up to date certificates. This would have the obvious implication.

[Matt M]

Hi Steve,
I do have the certs from the previous calibrations, but you bring up a good point about them being updated.
Thanks

[Phil Fields]

Originally Posted by Reflex

Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to get some of your thoughts on this. I have thread plug gauges that have come due for calibration. The wax seal from the last calibration is still intact. Is it acceptable to re-date them or do they need to be re-calibrated. I appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks
Matt

Matt,
Generally what we have been doing in this instance is sending the gauge out for calibration and changing the frequency from 1 year to 2 years. If after two years the wax seal has not been removed, we will discard the gauge and remove it from our database.
Our business has changed quite a bit and it does not make sense to hold on to some of the gauges, we have found this method to work the best for us.

Phil

[bobdoering]

Originally Posted by Reflex

Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to get some of your thoughts on this. I have thread plug gauges that have come due for calibration. The wax seal from the last calibration is still intact. Is it acceptable to re-date them or do they need to be re-calibrated. I appreciate your thoughts.

We need some additional info - what are these gages used for? How is the calibration date determined an who does it? You may want to have you procedure indicate "12 months from time of initial use", or something like that. It puts the onus on you to indicate when that gage is checked out to start the clock running.

Does the calibration certificate from an outside lab have a "Calibration due" on it? If so, why? How do they know the wear characteristics of your usage? I think if you only used these gages for layouts three or four times a year, the calibration period could be two years or longer. (You may find another thread discussing this issue already.)

If they are not on a current control plan, or are spares for active gages that you are willing to take the time to send out (not needed immediately if other gages are found out of calibration), you may wish to mark them as "out of service - recalibrate before use" Why spend the money to have them sit? If they are out of service, you auditor should have no problem with that.

[bobdoering]

Originally Posted by Phil Fields

Matt,
If after two years the wax seal has not been removed, we will discard the gauge and remove it from our database.
Our business has changed quite a bit and it does not make sense to hold on to some of the gauges, we have found this method to work the best for us.

IMHO: Boy, I hate to throw out thread gages - especially if they have little usage on them. But, that may just be from my experiences working with very limited budgets.

I know - quote gages in with the part pricing. But these days, you may teak a better quote if you already had the gages handy. Especially thread gages and their masters.

[David DeLong]

I would suggest that you must have a section in your calibration program for "not in use". Place the new and unused gauges in this section and that way they are not calibrated on a regular cycle basis.

Prior to releasing the gauge for use, it should be calibrated (really confirming the calibration) and then the calibration cycle begins. In your case, you should have a certificate of compliance but then, probably on a yearly basis from its time of activity, it should have its calibration confirmed.

It just doesn't make any sense that one would confirm, on a cycle basis, the calibration on a gauge that has not been used.

[Jennifer Kirley]

What Dave said.

Only part of calibration requirements are externally defined. Most are internally defined. That is, we decide what our requirements are based on our needs and our customers' needs. If you can include an option for as-needed calibration or suspending when the item is still sealed from the last calibration, then I support the idea.

Many times we make things harder than they need to be.