Tom, have you run across the auditors that are a Level III internal auditor for your competitor but your Nadcap auditor yet?
They can be a Nadcap auditor and be a consultant for someone else. Set up their system and then have one of their subordinates do the Nadcap audit on them. Sounds good to me. No conflict of interest there.
However, in their Nadcap capacity, they can't help you answer a question or give you direction on CA.
I had some questions on the ITAR/EAR stuff and called the Staff Engineer for some guidance. He sent me a flyer to attend "his" training session, not associated with PRI, for $600.
Their scam is almost as bad as the Nigerian Prince scam. I think they all could be doing the Sham Wow commercials!
In all my years of auditing and being audited I've never come across an issue like our last NDT audit.
We received an NCR for not having an employee sign the annual performance review. We questioned the validity of the finding due to no requirement to have a signed review. We showed evidence of the evaluation being reviewed with the employee but that wasn't good enough.
So we called the Staff Engineer when our corrective action was not accepted. When we asked to see the requirement for the signature we were told that there wasn't one. So we asked why our CA was rejected. The answer, "We will not accept anything other than a signature". Once again asked where the requirement was, and we were told there wasn't one but the only thing that they would accept was a signature.
Real good use of man power and monies there. Really saving the Primes some funds with that!
It's a no win situation with the suppliers. If the auditors don't find enough NCR's they are reviewed, they could lose their jobs. So they keep those little nit picky findings in their pockets to hit you with. And how can the Staff Eng go against the auditor. If they do it shows that the system is flawed, plus the Staff Eng wasn't on-site. He didn't see what the auditor saw. All they have to go on is the write-up.
Not a good set-up.
I go through their RAILs, it's scary. And the only way you get a say is to spend tons of money to become a voting member. I went to the meetings in PA last year in July. It's real scary!
But what are you going to do? Resistance is Futile, we will be assemilated.