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Old 23rd August 2000, 04:58 AM
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Question Does anybody have any information about the Firestone tire problem?

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Do you or does anybody have any information about the Firstone problem. I can see the message at the top of one of your pages, but unless i am doing something wrong it doesnt lead to any other info.

Actually, thinking about it, does anybody have ANY examples like this which could support or help to justify the implementation of procedures in a company. I would tend to circulate them inside sceptical organisations if i feel i need additional support

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The best one I can think of Andy is the Challenger Shuttle Booster situation in 1986.

There were some procedures in place (found to be inadequate and ignored) and a failure occurred. This may be similar to the tire issue.

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Thanks for the info Randy

But do you know where it is possible to get hold of the facts/reports/articles for either situation.

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Firestone is probably sitting on everything right now because of the legal issues. They did have a similar occurance 20 something years ago with the "Radial 500" tires. I even worked a fatality accident when I was a police officer involving those tires.

As for the Challenger, you can get a bunch off the "Net" because it is public information. It's well known that NASA and Morton Thiokol (the booster maker) had to totally revamp their quality and safety procedures because of that mess.
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Just 2 cnts worth ... If even part of the "RUMORS" that are leaking out have a speck of truth to them ....


Would anyone want to bet that there are at least one or two QA guys sitting around explaining why/how/when they should have addressed the problem to a bunch of production supervisors & other management types that could have been turning a blind eye to information supplied to them??

- Last RUMOR I heard was that the cost will be over 3.5 billion before this is over - would have supported a raft of quality programs and saved a raft of lives. Now- there are Rumors that they have known - or should have know for quite awhile - similar "problems" were related to them from oversea's long before it turned up here in the states.

I hesitate to use the word "RISK" but IMHO ... apparently someone or some group knowingly took a big risk and now there is payment required.
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Did everyone hear the latest?

Ford President on CNN news last night 8/31/00 - explaining they were inquiring with Goodyear & Michilen for possible help in supplying replacments?..

Stating "they were monitoring" the Firestone situation on a day by day basis..

according to "The Media"

Firestone is on the edge of loosing a 100 year old supplier/customer relationship.
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