The Elsmar Cove Forum and Site Map The Elsmar Cove Wiki More Free Files The Elsmar Cove Forums Discussion Thread Index Post Attachments Listing Failure Modes Services and Solutions to Problems Elsmar cove Forums Main Page Elsmar Cove Home Page

Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Quality Manager Issues > Customer Complaints including ISO 10002


The Elsmar Cove Forum SideBar!
Monitor the Forum
Monitor New Forum Posts
New Threads Feeds
RSS FeedRSS Feed
Sponsor Link










$ Contributor Forum Access
Courtesy Quick Links

Links that Elsmar Cove visitors will find useful in your quest for knowledge:


Howard's International Quality Services

Atul's Symphony Technologies

Dave Scott's Scott Quality Solutions

Praxiom Research Group


NIST's Engineering Statistics Handbook

IRCA - International Register of Certified Auditors

SAE - Society of Automotive Engineers

Quality Digest Portal

IEST - Institute of Environmental Sciences and Technology

ASQ - American Society for Quality


All the Important Standards and Related Web Sites in the World
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Content Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12th March 2009, 02:13 AM
66ooo 66ooo is offline
Shy Poster (1 to 5 Posts)

Registration Date: Sep 2007
 
Posts: 4
Thanks Given to Others: 7
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Karma Power: 10
Karma: 10
66ooo has less than 100 Karma points so far.
Please Help! Design and Engineering company - How to define a 'Complaint'

Our 9000 consultant let us set qulity objectives and key indicators. it was said that the 'customer complaint' must be taken into consideration, such as zero customer complaint per year, etc. but the key problem for us is how to identify the information from client/customer is a complaint? how to distinguish a query or consultation with a complaint? and how to confirm it do a complaint or do not a complaint due to usually a complaint be found is just a misunderstanding or not caused by us after investigation.
by the way, let me give a brief introduction about our company, which provide Automation Control System. There are so many interfaces between various departments of our client and of our company e.g. our salesman and/or marketing generally contact with the buyer of client on the T&C of contract; our engineer should cooperate with technican of client on the system installation, test and acceptance; our service team should contact with the operator of client; our instructor is in charge of training our client, etc.
Could you share your experience or sample. thanks.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 12th March 2009, 03:04 AM
howste's Avatar
howste howste is offline
Thaumaturge

Registration Date: May 2003
Location: Utah
 
Posts: 2,416
Thanks Given to Others: 377
Thanked 838 Times in 460 Posts
Karma Power: 206
Karma: 6556
howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.howste is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Default Re: Design and engineering company how to definite the 'complaint'

I don't think that "zero complaints per year" is necessarily the best goal to set, especially if you really haven't defined what a complaint is, how many complaints there are now, or what the severity of the complaints may be. It becomes too easy to play with the data to make things look the way we want them to look. I do, however, agree that complaints should be tracked and analyzed to help the organization to improve.

You should probably start with a definition of what a complaint is. An example is the medical device definition of customer complaint: "written, electronic or oral communication that alleges deficiencies related to the identity, quality, durability, reliability, safety or performance of a medical device that has been placed on the market."

You could probably adapt it to work for your organization. Something like "written, electronic or oral communication that alleges deficiencies related to the quality, durability, reliability, useability, safety or performance of an installed system or to the timeliness of installation or effectiveness of training provided."

Having the term "complaint" clearly defined up front will help to avoid the question of whether an exchange with the customer was really a complaint or just a normal part of doing business. The complaints should realistically only include items showing negative perception on the part of the customer.

Examples of customer complaints:
- I thought this was supposed to do XX, but it doesn't.
- You promised XX% uptime, but we've only been getting X%.
- We needed this installed last month, but we're still waiting on XX.
- The system you designed/installed is too hard to use.
- Your system sucks (unless of course it's a vacuum system).
- As soon as your trainer leaves, we're lost as to how to run this XX.

Examples of non-complaints:
- I have a question about...
- How much would it cost to add XX to the system?
- Can you help us to solve a problem with XX (something you didn't design/install)?
- Can you give us a quote for...

The complaints should be analyzed to determine what caused the actual or perceived problem. Even if the problem wasn't your company's fault, some analysis should be done to see why the customer thought it was. This could lead to more clearly defined statements of work etc. to avoid the customer thinking that your company didn't do what was promised.
Reply With Quote
Thanks to howste for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
Sponsored Links

  #3  
Old 12th March 2009, 03:24 AM
harry harry is offline
Super Moderator

Registration Date: Sep 2005
Location: Johore/Malaysia
 
Posts: 2,945
Thanks Given to Others: 572
Thanked 1,031 Times in 746 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Karma Power: 231
Karma: 7783
harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.harry is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Default Re: Design and Engineering company - How to define a 'Complaint'

Related thread: What Do You Define as a Customer Complaint?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation Bar
Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Quality Manager Issues > Customer Complaints including ISO 10002

Bookmarks

Tags
complaint, define


Visitors Currently Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 Registered Visitors and 1 Unregistered Guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Forum Search
Display Modes Rate Thread Content
Rate Thread Content:

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Discussion Threads
Discussion Thread Title Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post or Poll Vote
What Do You Define as a Customer Complaint? murban Customer Complaints including ISO 10002 36 7th May 2009 07:50 AM
Preventive Action form - Small design engineering company tmiddled ISO 9001 - Quality Management Systems Standard 1 18th October 2008 01:40 AM
New Engineering Metric for our Design Engineering Group Andy Nutt Design and Development - Process and Product 4 19th May 2004 03:46 AM
Accredited Company Doesn't Deliver and has NO Complaint Procedure smullen Other ISO and International Standards and European Regulations 21 2nd September 2002 12:05 AM
Design Control 4.4 - Design Engineering manager has no structured documentation Marc Design and Development - Process and Product 11 15th October 1999 11:09 AM



The time now is 02:44 AM. All times are GMT -4.
The time zone can be changed in your UserCP --> Options.



   

All Y'All Come Back Now, Y' Hear?

Made With A Mac! FreeBSD OS Powered by Apache!
Using php4 Forums provided and maintained by Marc Smith Database by MySQL

FAIR USE and CORRECTNESS NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe herein constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. In addition, I do not guarantee the correctness of the content. The risk of using content from the Elsmar Cove web site and forums remains with the user/visitor.

Responsibility Statement: Each person is responsible for anything they post in the Elsmar Cove forum. Neither I, Marc Timothy Smith, nor any of the forum Moderators, are responsible for the content of posts people make. Liability for post content resides with the poster as does interpretation and/or acceptance and/or use of advice by the reader.

Complaints: If you have a complaint with a post in a forum discussion thread, including Content in general, fighting, flaming, copyright infringement, defamation and/or 'slander', please use the 'Report This Post Report This Post Button button which appears at the top of every post in every thread.

Site courtesy of:
Marc Timothy Smith - Cayman Business Systems, 8466 Lesourdsville-West Chester Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069-1929 - USA
(513) 341-6272

To contact me, click the Google Voice link below, enter Your Name and Your Phone Number and Google will ring your phone and connect you for free!

The Elsmar Cove Web Site is *CopyFree*
no new posts