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Question Must Safety Rules be in Work Instructions of a SOP?

Must safety rules be in Work Instructions of a SOP? If they must, please give some examples, because the safety rules can make innefective the Work Instruction (because of the size of the information to be written in).
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Must safety rules be in Work Instructions of a SOP? If they must, please give some examples, because the safety rules can make innefective the Work Instruction (because of the size of the information to be written in).
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WI or SOP? That is your choice. Personally, I like the safety instructions integrated with the work instructions. As stated many times in the Cove Forums, make sure that you keep the intended users of these documents in mind.

A good reminder that I provide is: "What information do people need to perform the job safely, effectively and efficiently?"

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Safety rules must form part of an SOP. If the rules are too large, a document reference should be made in the SOP. At the same time, a separate safety rule document should be displayed in the work place. Because SAFETY FIRST!
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From a legal and common sense point of view, it is sensible to include safety rules (in whatever form you choose) but from an ISO 9001 point of view, it is not required.

Section 0.4 Compatibility with other standards .... 'this International Standard does not include requirements specific to other management systems such as .... occupational health and safety' ....
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Further to my earlier mail on safety rules,
I AGREE THAT THE ISO9001 STANDARD DOESNOT ASK FOR SAFETY RULES TO BE DOCUMENTED,AS IT IS MENTIONED IN BEIGINNING OF THE STANDARD THAT SAFETY IS COVERED BY OTHER ISO STANDARDS.
BUT TS16949 REQUIRES SAFETY TO BE COVERED IN PROCESS REVIEW DOCUMENTS
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because the safety rules can make innefective the Work Instruction.
Ineffective, compared to what? Training an operator 3 separate times with 3 separate and disjointed sets of requirements for quality, safety and environmental issues?

The ultimate goal is a totally integrated management system, where all the processes are holistically managed. A document that contains instructions for the operators for quality, safety and byproduct disposal, is a component of an integrated management system.

The fear that many people have is: If the SOP has safety instructions, could auditors delve into that, when conducting an ISO 9001 assessment? The answer to that question is a resounding NO. And it has been discussed many times, here in this forum.
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Default Re: Must Safety Rules be in Work Instructions of a SOP?

Dear,

There is two way

First is to indicate the safety measure separately in SOP
Second is to incorporate in the porceudre how is work is done.

here is an example, it may be useful for you.

UNLOADING OF CARTONS, KEGS AND DRUMS :


1.It will be ensured that the vehicle carrying the raw material is parked at the proper place (unloading bay) for un- loading with its engine switched off.
2.Store officer will appoint a fire fighter who will take the all-necessary safety measures to handle the emergency beforehand.
3.Material will be unloaded in presence of store officer, security guard and nominated fire fighter.
4.Fire extinguisher and water hosepipe must be present near to the place of unloading.

5.It will be ensured that fork lifter is working properly and is ready for unloading with tits operator wearing safety helmet and safety shoes.

6.If the material is to be unloaded manually then the persons involved should wear rubber gloves, safety shoes, face shield or mask.
7.Cleanliness of the cartons, drums, kegs or pallets will be done with the help of wet duster, before shifting it to the quarantine area and will be recorded as per form no. FS-02 (i).

8.Material will be unloaded one by one with extreme care to avoid any damage and will be stacked on pallets.
9.Store staff will conduct random checking of weight (approx: 25% of the shipment), as per form No. FS-02 (i).
10.If the hired labor is involved then record will be maintained of labor cost as per form No. FS-02 (ii) attached.




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Must safety rules be in Work Instructions of a SOP? If they must, please give some examples, because the safety rules can make innefective the Work Instruction (because of the size of the information to be written in).
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When work practices are designed and promulgated via procedures or work instructions, their design should be such that safety practices are not an afterthought, or even discernible from the work procedure. In short, safety should be built into the process. In this way there may be safety rules, but they are not spelled out as rules. In combination with training, adequate resourcing and supervision, such work design can be expected to result in safer (nothing is completely safe where risks are present) work processes.
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