Renewal of Certificate: How Many Mandays?

In the third quarter of this year our certificate is three years old, so we need a now one. It isn't clear to me what the procedure will be for the renewal. Will we get a new initial audit with all the required mandays or will we go on with surveillance audits as we do already for some years? To me QS9000 isn't clear about this. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance!

[Casana]

Your registrar would be the best one to give you guidance on this… especially with the new ISO 9K2K standard being out.
My expectation based on previous experience with ISO 9K is that you’ll have to go through the whole registration process, as you did when you were first registered (same amount of man-days etc), then they’ll repeat their current surveillance process & frequency. Given how AIAG has not spoken regarding ISO 9K2K I susupect that your registrar may register you to the current QS standard (which only has the ISO 1994 version) with the caveat that they’ll upgrade you to the ISO 9K2K whenever AIAG decides what they want to do.
Please let us know what your registrar’s final decision is… my current company is QS registered and we’re waiting with baited breath to see what AIAG will decree on this topic…

[Marc]

You might want to take a look at mandays.doc in the pdf_files directory.
http://www.16949.com/pdf_files/mandays.doc

[Marc]

You might want to take a look at mandays.doc in the pdf_files directory.
http://Elsmar.com/pdf_files/ - Look for 'mandays.doc'

[D.Scott]

Marc, are you sure this is up to date? I seem to remember the renewal audit requirements were recently changed and the requirement is now the same for renewal as it is for initial. I have no idea where I saw that but for some reason it is ringing a bell.

Dave