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Old 29th January 2010, 03:54 PM
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Please Help! AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

I've had a request to provide bubble drawings along with a First Article Inspection and I'm not entirely sure what all that entails? Any guidance on how to produce these would be much appreciated. Examples, input, procedure, et cetera...Thanks.

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Old 29th January 2010, 04:02 PM
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Re: AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

It's just a marked up drawing to show how the design characterisitics (dimensions, notes, etc.) correlate with the items noted/listed on your FAI form. As an example, if you have a .5 dimension listed several places on your FAI form, you need the "bubble drawing" to know which individual characterisitic on the drawing it is refering to.

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Old 29th January 2010, 04:16 PM
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Re: AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

Well, in that case I understand completely. I suppose I've just never heard it referenced as a "bubble drawing." Thank you!
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Old 29th January 2010, 04:21 PM
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Re: AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

Yeah, I have always called them "balloon drawings".

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Old 29th January 2010, 04:23 PM
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Re: AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

Don't forget to "balloon" the specs too.

By the way, there is software out there designed specifically for this.

Do a web search for a software called DISCUS for numbering prints.

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Old 29th January 2010, 04:25 PM
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Let Me Help You Re: AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

Attached is a written procedure we have for bubbling a drawing. You do not mention the requirements for the 1st article however. Does it have to be in accordance with AS9102 (Aerospace Standard)? There is a lot more to this if that is the case.
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Old 29th January 2010, 04:33 PM
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Let Me Help You Re: AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

Sorry, I see you are talking AS9102. Do you have the correct forms? If not, you will have to purchase them (copywrited)

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http://www.sae.org/technical/standards/AS9102A
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Old 29th January 2010, 04:39 PM
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Let Me Help You Re: AS9102 FAI Bubble Drawings

One other thing you must do:

If you have a char such as .500 R 10X specified on the drawing, you have to list all 10 as individual char in the report, i.e., .500 R (1), .500 R (2), etc. 10X. In other words, they want to see that actual measured value for each radius.
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