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Old 2nd December 2010, 12:56 PM
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Please Help! How to be an Auditing Consultant

Hi ,
I have 4 years of manufacturing experience, Masters in engineering and have done about 20 internal audits so far.I am working on getting my ASQ CQA certification and have been trained as an internal auditor. What is the route one should take to become a consultant and get customers. Any one with such experience? Would ASQ CQA be better than the RABQSA lead auditor training?

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Old 2nd December 2010, 01:13 PM
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Re: How to be an auditing consultant

I notice you are a first-time thread-poster, and so say greetings, and hello!
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Old 2nd December 2010, 01:28 PM
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Re: How to be an Auditing Consultant

I would think the RABQSA would be the preference.

Do remember the RABQSA course gives you a 'diploma' (for lack of a better word). If I remember correctly it does not mean you will be a certified RABQSA auditor. I.e.: It's a course.

There are a lot of audtors here who should be able to help with more specifics.
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Old 2nd December 2010, 01:34 PM
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Re: How to be an Auditing Consultant

By the way - As to being a Consultant, anyone can hang up a shingle and sell their services, but it's like any business. You have to make a business plan and go from there. My personal opinion is there is an overabundance of auditors so you'll be diving into a *lot* of competition.
Thanks to Marc for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 2nd December 2010, 03:20 PM
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Re: How to be an Auditing Consultant

The ASQ Auditor Certification can be be used as the required training course for the RABQSA program. I would contact the RABQSA before applying an making sure you have the current information. This was accurate as of November of 2010.
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Old 2nd December 2010, 03:28 PM
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Re: How to be an Auditing Consultant

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The ASQ Auditor Certification can be be used as the required training course for the RABQSA program. I would contact the RABQSA before applying an making sure you have the current information. This was accurate as of November of 2010.
Is there a study guide to cover the differences?
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Old 2nd December 2010, 05:29 PM
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Is there a study guide to cover the differences?
If you have a current ASQ-CQA then you can fill out the application I attached and become a RABQSA auditor by paying the new auditor registration fees and passing the GAP exam. Basicaly they accept the CQA exam as being equivalent to a Lead Auditor Training course.

The RABQSA Gap Examination is a 25 question test taken online that is open book. The test covers the ISO9001 standard. The questions for this test are pretty easy.

I took the GAP exam because I applied using a different set of rules so I can offer some insight. This is not an actual test question but is VERY similar to what is on the GAP exam: "What section of the standard requires a need to establish processes, documents, and provide resources specific to the product." The answer is 7.1.B, if you look up that section in the standard it reads word for word. If you can answer that kind of question about the 9001 standard then you will have no problem with the GAP exam.
Thank You to adickerson for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 2nd December 2010, 07:10 PM
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Caution Re: How to be an Auditing Consultant

Having been an auditor consultant for quite a few years, apart from the satisfaction that I've attended, written and delivered a significant number of auditor courses, rarely do clients ask for my qualifications! To make the grade as a 'consultant' doing audits, I'm going to tell you that you need more experience than you've got, so far! Get someone who has - one of the many expert consultants here, for example - and get them to shadow you to see what they make of you! Doing audits to pass an ISO certification audit doesn't, IMHO, qualify anyone to be an audit consultant - sorry to be brutal!
Thank You to AndyN for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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