How to Capture Discrepant Material identified at Supplier in NC system

[Beauclan]

I am looking for suggestions concerning the recording of discrepant (NC) material identified by suppliers. We have a checkbox for incoming on the NC form, but it’s not really incoming since it’s already been identified by the supplier. I would like to capture it in our system, since it is still NC and upsets the process. I also want a consistent way to track and report problems for military/aerospace FAI’s, etc.

Does anyone have 2 forms and use one to send to the supplier to make requests on discrepant material? I prefer one form, but would like to hear from the forum.

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks,
Kathy

[Stijloor]

In Reply to Parent Post by Beauclan

I am looking for suggestions concerning the recording of discrepant (NC) material identified by suppliers. We have a checkbox for incoming on the NC form, but it’s not really incoming since it’s already been identified by the supplier. I would like to capture it in our system, since it is still NC and upsets the process. I also want a consistent way to track and report problems for military/aerospace FAI’s, etc.

Does anyone have 2 forms and use one to send to the supplier to make requests on discrepant material? I prefer one form, but would like to hear from the forum.

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks,
Kathy

I am a little confused.... If a supplier identifies nonconforming material, why would they send it to you?
Or, why would you take action since it is their responsibility?

Can you clarify?

Thanks.

Stijloor.

[Beauclan]

It might be a long-lead item or a very technical part that they want to get a deviation on.

I only want to take action to record the discrepancy and then create the chain to my supplier. The parts may be on a government contract requiring AS9102 FAI and records of nonconfomances/deviations.

Does that help?

[Stijloor]

In Reply to Parent Post by Beauclan

It might be a long-lead item or a very technical part that they want to get a deviation on.

I only want to take action to record the discrepancy and then create the chain to my supplier. The parts may be on a government contract requiring AS9102 FAI and records of nonconfomances/deviations.

Does that help?

Sort of... But I am not an AS expert, so my distinguished aerospace industry colleagues here at the Cove Forums, will likely respond.

Stijloor.

[QE]

From what I have seen is that your supplier will report you the yields which will be some math of what he tried to make and what got scrapped. The NCR's are his internal records and should make it available upon your request during an investigations or may be a part of monthly/weekly review of the suppliers quality data.

hope it helps.

[wweng7]

On your company portal you should have a link for your suppliers to download concession form which usually called: “request for material review action so called RMRA” or “request for deviation” with description of nonconformity, corrective action, part number, description etc. As you know per AS9100 you should have a database to rate your suppliers and this would be a good place to register all RMRAs activities for each supplier. One RMRA form is good enough.

[QCAce]

In Reply to Parent Post by Stijloor

I am a little confused.... If a supplier identifies nonconforming material, why would they send it to you?
Or, why would you take action since it is their responsibility?

Can you clarify?

Thanks.

Stijloor.

I agree. No need to track nc's that the supplier is finding and taking responsibility for. It is a good thing if they are finding the nc's on their own.

The part supply process may still be disrupted, however I would expect something like this to affect their on-time delivery %.