The Elsmar Cove Forum and Site Map The Elsmar Cove Wiki More Free Files The Elsmar Cove Forums Discussion Thread Index Post Attachments Listing Failure Modes Services and Solutions to Problems Elsmar cove Forums Main Page Elsmar Cove Home Page

Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Common Quality Assurance Processes and Tools > Nonconformance and Corrective Action


The Elsmar Cove Forum SideBar!
Monitor the Forum
Monitor New Forum Posts
New Threads Feeds
RSS FeedRSS Feed
Sponsor Link










$ Contributor Forum Access
Courtesy Quick Links

Links that Elsmar Cove visitors will find useful in your quest for knowledge:


Howard's International Quality Services

Atul's Symphony Technologies

Dave Scott's Scott Quality Solutions

Praxiom Research Group


NIST's Engineering Statistics Handbook

IRCA - International Register of Certified Auditors

SAE - Society of Automotive Engineers

Quality Digest Portal

IEST - Institute of Environmental Sciences and Technology

ASQ - American Society for Quality


All the Important Standards and Related Web Sites in the World
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 3.00 average. Display Modes
  #1  
Old 8th May 2002, 10:10 AM
Russ's Avatar
Russ Russ is offline

Registration Date: Apr 2001
Location: Tipton, IN USA
 
Posts: 222
Thanks Given to Others: 1
Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts
Karma Power: 42
Karma: 172
Russ is appreciated, and has over 100 Karma points.Russ is appreciated, and has over 100 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Russ
Default Corrective Action Procedure

My company has been ISO 9000/QS9000 registered for 5 years. Since we are transitioning to ISO 9K2K I have been taking a good hard look at our Corrective Action program. Our procedure is heavily product oriented right now and we need to move to a process oriented CA program that enconpasses all processes here and not just on the shop floor. Anyone have a CA procedure that does so and willing to share?
Reply With Quote
Thanks to Russ for your informative Post and/or Attachment!

Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 8th May 2002, 11:02 AM
Fire Girl's Avatar
Fire Girl Fire Girl is offline
Inactive Registered Visitor

Registration Date: Apr 2001
Location: Orillia, Ontario, Canada
Age: 34
 
Posts: 112
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Karma Power: 37
Karma: 20
Fire Girl has less than 100 Karma points so far.
Default Here's what I got...

Russ

I am attaching my corrective and preventive action procedures. They aren't great, but they're mine. You can check them out for yourself, anyway.

I use NCR's for everyday problems, bad parts on shop floor, shipping issues, customer complaints. I generate CPAR's (Corrective & Preventive Action Requests) for major customer complaints, internal audit findings and at managements request. So take a look and tell me what you think. There is another procedure that goes with this one but we'll wait and see....

Good Luck


*I can't seem to post 2 attachments at the same time. I can e-mail you the rest if you like...
Attached Files: 1. Scan for viruses before using, 2. Please report any 'bad' files by Reporting the post it is in, 3. Use at your Own Risk.
File Type: doc Corrective and Preventive Action Procedure.doc (24.5 KB, 1069 views)
Reply With Quote
Thanks to Fire Girl for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
Sponsored Links

  #3  
Old 8th May 2002, 11:26 AM
JodiB's Avatar
JodiB JodiB is offline
Still plugging along

Registration Date: Nov 2001
Location: Texas
 
Posts: 502
Thanks Given to Others: 4
Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts
Karma Power: 44
JodiB has disabled his/her Karma.
Default

Here's mine. It's fairly restrictive and texty, but we haven't had such a system before so it needs to be this way in the beginning. I'm sure we will modify it with use.
Attached Files: 1. Scan for viruses before using, 2. Please report any 'bad' files by Reporting the post it is in, 3. Use at your Own Risk.
File Type: doc corrective action for cove.doc (271.0 KB, 1022 views)
Reply With Quote
Thanks to JodiB for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
  #4  
Old 8th May 2002, 12:25 PM
Aaron Lupo's Avatar
Aaron Lupo Aaron Lupo is offline
QA-LA

Registration Date: Jan 2000
Location: Rochester, NY
Age: 39
 
Posts: 897
Thanks Given to Others: 5
Thanked 37 Times in 30 Posts
Karma Power: 71
Karma: 722
Aaron Lupo is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.Aaron Lupo is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.Aaron Lupo is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.Aaron Lupo is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.Aaron Lupo is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.Aaron Lupo is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.Aaron Lupo is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.
Default

Quote:
Jim Wade said:

But if it's only a certificate you care about - ignore this. Most registrars don't seem to care about whether or not we meet this important requirement

rgds Jim
Fire you are not alone in the difficult world of implementing a good CAPA program, it looks as if you need to beef up your procedure a bit. Take a look at the one Lucinda posted it is a very very good.

On a side note, I think the above reposnse posted by Mr. Wade is uncalled for. Maybe I am reading to much into it and if I am I apologize. Rather than assuming the only thing you care about is the certificate, why not give an example of what he feels is a good CAPA procedure/program.
Reply With Quote
Thanks to Aaron Lupo for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
  #5  
Old 8th May 2002, 12:54 PM
M Greenaway's Avatar
M Greenaway M Greenaway is offline
Courtesy Access

Registration Date: Dec 2001
Location: England
 
Posts: 1,643
Thanks Given to Others: 10
Thanked 63 Times in 44 Posts
Karma Power: 80
Karma: 794
M Greenaway is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.M Greenaway is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.M Greenaway is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.M Greenaway is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.M Greenaway is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.M Greenaway is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.M Greenaway is appreciated, and has over 700 Karma points.
Default

but Lucindas definition of corrective action as an action to prevent occurrence is in direct conflict with ISO9001 definitions.
Reply With Quote
Thanks to M Greenaway for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
  #6  
Old 8th May 2002, 03:07 PM
Russ's Avatar
Russ Russ is offline

Registration Date: Apr 2001
Location: Tipton, IN USA
 
Posts: 222
Thanks Given to Others: 1
Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts
Karma Power: 42
Karma: 172
Russ is appreciated, and has over 100 Karma points.Russ is appreciated, and has over 100 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Russ
Default

Thanks for the ideas. I have posted our current procedure below. Anyone see a problem here?
Attached Files: 1. Scan for viruses before using, 2. Please report any 'bad' files by Reporting the post it is in, 3. Use at your Own Risk.
File Type: doc Corrective Action Procedure qp-14.01.doc (34.5 KB, 980 views)
Reply With Quote
Thanks to Russ for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
  #7  
Old 8th May 2002, 03:28 PM
HFowler's Avatar
HFowler HFowler is offline
Involved - Posts

Registration Date: Aug 2001
Location: Rutherfordton, NC
 
Posts: 131
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Karma Power: 36
Karma: 15
HFowler has less than 100 Karma points so far.
Russ,

I think the procedure looks good as long as it adequately describes your process. It's just a matter of personal preference, but I would change the title SCOPE to PURPOSE and APPLICATION to SCOPE. To me your scope sounds like the purpose of the procedure. IMHO, I don't think you would lose anything by removing the word "idiot-proof" from 4.11. As I said, these suggestions are just my personal preference and opinion.

Best Regards,
Hank Fowler
__________________
Insanity - believing results can be changed without changing the processes that create them.

Last edited by HFowler; 8th May 2002 at 03:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 8th May 2002, 03:53 PM
energy
Unregistered Guest

 
Posts: n/a
Thumbs up That's Jim

Quote:
ISO GUY said:

On a side note, I think the above reposnse posted by Mr. Wade is uncalled for. Maybe I am reading to much into it and if I am I apologize. Rather than assuming the only thing you care about is the certificate, why not give an example of what he feels is a good CAPA procedure/program.
ISO Guy,

If you read Jim's posts, he often refers to this. I, personally, like it. We are absolutely in it for the badge. It's a marketing tool and does nothing to enhance our business. JMHO. In theory, it's supposed to smooth things out. In the water business, it just muddies our processes.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation Bar
Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Common Quality Assurance Processes and Tools > Nonconformance and Corrective Action

Bookmarks


Visitors Currently Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 Registered Visitors and 1 Unregistered Guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Forum Search
Display Modes Rate Thread Content
Rate Thread Content:

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Discussion Threads
Discussion Thread Title Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post or Poll Vote
Corrective Action Request (CAR) Form Examples and Discussion Greg Mack Documentation Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 144 29th October 2009 12:57 PM
Document Control Procedure - Ideas - Examples Attached DWPOZE Documentation Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 30 31st July 2009 06:25 PM
Does anyone have examples of a Corrective and Preventive action log? Sean Kelley Nonconformance and Corrective Action 9 23rd July 2007 05:36 PM
Examples of excessive corrective action Paul Simpson Nonconformance and Corrective Action 8 17th April 2007 01:02 PM
Looking for examples of an Internal Audit Corrective Action Form Jan91168 Documentation Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 6 29th September 2005 03:52 PM



The time now is 10:05 AM. All times are GMT -4.
The time zone can be changed in your UserCP --> Options.



   

All Y'All Come Back Now, Y' Hear?

Made With A Mac! FreeBSD OS Powered by Apache!
Using php4 Forums provided and maintained by Marc Smith Database by MySQL

FAIR USE and CORRECTNESS NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe herein constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. In addition, I do not guarantee the correctness of the content. The risk of using content from the Elsmar Cove web site and forums remains with the user/visitor.

Responsibility Statement: Each person is responsible for anything they post in the Elsmar Cove forum. Neither I, Marc Timothy Smith, nor any of the forum Moderators, are responsible for the content of posts people make. Liability for post content resides with the poster as does interpretation and/or acceptance and/or use of advice by the reader.

Complaints: If you have a complaint with a post in a forum discussion thread, including Content in general, fighting, flaming, copyright infringement, defamation and/or 'slander', please use the 'Report This Post Report This Post Button button which appears at the top of every post in every thread.

Site courtesy of:
Marc Timothy Smith - Cayman Business Systems, 8466 Lesourdsville-West Chester Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069-1929 - USA
(513) 341-6272

To contact me, click the Google Voice link below, enter Your Name and Your Phone Number and Google will ring your phone and connect you for free!

The Elsmar Cove Web Site is *CopyFree*
no new posts