In Reply to Parent Post by z28tt
Thanks for the responses. In this case, the customer didn't provide the print, since we had it already due to making parts direct to the design owner. I'm sure they could provide it if pressed. What I'm trying to figure out is that if the PO doesn't state a balloon dwg is required as part of the FAIR package, and AS9102 also doesn't state that, then I've got solid ground to reverse the rejection. I hate picking a fight with the customer, though.
1. Before going to war and push back - read the LTA (Long Term Agreement), also read the Terms and Condition.
2. Read the Quality Requirements of the customer.
(i.e. UTC (United Technology - aka Pratt / Sikorsky / Hamilton) have a document call - ASQR-01) This is how quality requirements are flow down. So before you get to excited - find out if this requirements ware flown down or forgotten to be flow down.
3. AS 9102 Section 5.2 # 8 read - and I quote
"Verify that every design characteristic requirement is accounted for, uniquely identified and has inspection results traceable to each unique identifier". (end of quote)
The interpretation of many customer is the following:
1. Uniquely identified (Placed in Form 3 in a numerical sequence).
2. Inspection results traceable (key word) to each unique identifier (numbers inside a circle for easy of finding).
4. Place yourself on the receiving side and see how much fun it is to match the sequence of 100 - to 1000 characteristic on form 3 to the print.
5. Future communications on this product will give you an excellent point of reference. (i.e. item # 123 on AS9102 form 3 is out of tolerance) - go have fun looking for it - and pray that it is the only dimension on that page.