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27th February 2003, 06:13 PM
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Preventive Action (PA) and Corrective Action (CA) - One or Two Procedures?
Hello Friends,
Just curious as to what the rest of you are doing.
I currently have one procedure for both, and I am considering making two seperate procedures.
What are you doing?
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CarolX
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27th February 2003, 06:48 PM
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We did just the opposite here. We had 2 seperate procedures under the old standard and then combined them when we upgraded. Now we have one procedure and one form to cover both.
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28th February 2003, 01:49 AM
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Same here Richard,
One procedure here as well.
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28th February 2003, 08:11 AM
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I have 2 but then again, we are still under the old QS standard. Might be different later.
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28th February 2003, 10:06 AM
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Hope Just ONE works out.
We had one under ISO 9001:1994.
Our last surveillance audit in Sept '02 (my first as "Quality Guy") pointed out that our Preventitive was very weak and no proof of using that part.
I recently updated Procedure (still just one) and form. Although the Procedure and form are more corrective oriented, it is designed to do both.
Hopefully our last 1994 assessment (03-11-03) and upcoming pre-assessment (9k2k) will not force/encourage me to seperate them.
For the size of our little company and limited resources and SPC style anaylsis, I think we'd get even less Preventitive Actions if they were seperated.
*shrug*
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28th February 2003, 02:24 PM
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 Hi, I'm new here. We are working on transitioning to 9001:2000. At our last audit, the auditor told me I had to make corrective and preventive two separte procedures. Is this correct? I'm having trouble creating preventive action form
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28th February 2003, 02:31 PM
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Hi Kim and wlecome
There is nothing in the standard that requires them to be seperate procedures. This sounds like a personal preference of the auditor. We have made the transition to 9001:2000 and have one procedure for both (we also have one procedure to combine document and record control). The auditor had no problem with this and actually liked the idea of simplifying it into one procedure and one form.
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Thanks to Jimmy Olson for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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28th February 2003, 02:56 PM
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 Thanks Guys,
I have really been struggling with this one!!!
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