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30th July 2003, 03:22 PM
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Does your registrar have Specific Requirements outside those of the standard?
If so, which registrar and what is / are the 'extra' requirements?
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30th July 2003, 03:30 PM
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Where's the shall?
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Entella contains questions on their checklist from Annex A (14001)
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30th July 2003, 04:09 PM
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Each of the registrars I have worked with have had some requirements above the standard. Most of them deal with administrative type issues, nothing "big" but sometimes annoying. One required that we keep a documented list of how each of our records was filed (date - filed newest to oldest or oldest to newest, customer - alphanumeric or by customer number) this was kind of a pain...most of the time it is immediately apparent how things are filed when you open the draw, but oh well, we knew the answers and it took so little time and resources that it wasn't worth fighting over.
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30th July 2003, 04:11 PM
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Minor Issue
Registrar requires us to have a 2nd or deputy Management Rep assigned within our company. No big deal. Doesn't mean much unless I'm out sick during a surviellance audit. I have not found any other "special" requirments yet...
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30th July 2003, 04:43 PM
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Courtesy Access
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Registrar #1: Required by contract a stockist checklist. What was not in the contract was the requirement to have the quality policy memorized. Also, we wanted to have a deputy management rep and they said no. Oddly, registrar #2 required a deputy management rep.
Registrar #2: contracturally required a deputy mgmt rep. no other issues. Auditor said he'd be fired if he required us to memorize the quality policy.
Registrar # 3: Nothing outside the standard
Registrar #4: nothing in the contract, but I've discovered the signed mgmt review minutes issue, and there may be more...I've only just started looking.
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30th July 2003, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RosieA
Registrar #1: Required by contract a stockist checklist. What was not in the contract was the requirement to have the quality policy memorized.
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Anybody that requires people to memorize the QP is a boob (nothing to do with body parts).
Deputy mgmt rep....just a good common sense practice anyway
Signed mgmnt review minutes....I ain't gonna go back down this trail, that's in another thread, but I figured as much.
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30th July 2003, 06:36 PM
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Our registrar required a 3 page "custome rrequiremnts profile" tied to each clause of TS2. Also required a spreadsheet identifying COP's, inputs, outputs, measures, process owners, procedures and work instructions.
Note: COP's are not required by TS2.
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30th July 2003, 08:16 PM
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Just desserts
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Originally Posted by RosieA
Registrar #1: Required by contract a stockist checklist. What was not in the contract was the requirement to have the quality policy memorized. Also, we wanted to have a deputy management rep and they said no. Oddly, registrar #2 required a deputy management rep.
Registrar #2: contracturally required a deputy mgmt rep. no other issues. Auditor said he'd be fired if he required us to memorize the quality policy.
Registrar # 3: Nothing outside the standard
Registrar #4: nothing in the contract, but I've discovered the signed mgmt review minutes issue, and there may be more...I've only just started looking.
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And registrar #5 may want his/her own office with a lockable door, a telephone and, of course, a window. Preferrably yours.That's where the problem is. If the MR/QA Mgr did their Registrar interview correctly, they would sniff out these overbearing pompous bottom feeders at the very beginning. You get what you deserve because you didn't do your homework. If you inherited the mess, my condolences. Somebody dropped the ball. I interviewed three potential Registrars and two of them didn't have a chance. I got tired of staring up into those arrogant nostrils and they were cordially sent on their way. The one selected was extremely candid and very likable. When I posted this some time ago, I was told that I should be on the lookout for Charlatans in the industry. Why? Because, in some minds, no Registrar worth their salt should be likable. I say, If you expect crap, you will get it. If you take crap, you will get more of it! JMHO.
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