FMEA Third Edition Changes and Powerway

[Marc]

I have a copy of the 3rd version. In fact, there's a thread here somewhere whiich lists the differences as I remember. But as a consultant (project manager?) I haven't had to use it. What I did see as I looked through it was nothing earthshaking.

Would you care to take a jab at giving us a summary of the differences?

[D.Scott]

The major difference affecting the FMEA format is that it adds one extra column which messes up the formatting in the other programs. If you add the column (very easy by the way) you have to re-format the form to fit the page.

Dave

[David McGan]

Until, Steve stabs, the only major difference I see is that it splits the "Current Control" into two columns -- "Current Controls Prevention" and "Current Controls Detection." That, plus the fact that you have to shell out additional money to the AIAG to replace all the 2nd Edition FMEA books you previously purchased.

[Marc]

Yeah - Howard ordered several and had them sent to me. I took one and remailed the remaining copies to him. Cheaper than having them mailed direct to him. Go figure.

[Steve Bondarewski]

Most of the people I speak to are not using the 3rd Edition format yet. There is nothing forcing them yet ... perhaps this may change.

I find that most companies are still struggling with how to do a basic FMEA study i.e. Failure Mode vs. Failure Effect ...

A bigger problem is that no two FMEAs are the same -- if two groups perform an FMEA on the exact same part, the results will vary considerably --- instead of adding more columns, more emphasis should have be placed on education, case studies etc...

My opinion ...

Steve

sbond@dyadem.com

[D.Scott]

Most of the people I speak to are not using the 3rd Edition format yet. There is nothing forcing them yet ... perhaps this may change.

Third Edition took effect July 2001. Use of the previous edition after that date constitutes a nonconformance, if discovered. The new edition should have replaced the old in your controlled document system.

Customers may not be requiring it from you but a QS auditor will. AIAG may not care if you use it, but they would be very upset if they thought people could avoid paying for the new edition.

Dave

[Big-3-Hand-Puppet]

FYI…Ford has LOST the Source Code to their FMEA+ program…

What does this mean?Well enjoy the current version (4.1), cuz there will be no more modifications without the Source Code! No FMEA 3rd edition!

Conversation with an x-Ford colleague many months ago, revealed a need to go elsewhere for canned software. Chris has stumbled onto the only one we found that both imports FMEA+ files & prints to HTML (which could be opened in Excel). Hats-Off to FMEApro. This package is Slick! Now, regardless of what happens in the future, I can always dump my FMEApro files into excel or word..I am no longer at the mercy of a software company!

Big-3-Hand-Puppet

[chrissramey]

That's pretty funny! LOL Lost the code....wow. That explains it then. I'm still waiting on the code to use that FMEA pro program.