In Reply to Parent Post by Atul Khandekar
Modifications to Red Style (Only)
1. FORUMHOME: Removed the attribte style="white-space: nowrap" from the DIV that lists current online users.
2. PostBit:Introduced an "hspace=5" attribute to the images in the right top corner of every post, to reduce the clutter (reputation,bad post & IP images)
3. Next I'm going to look at what's causing this patch at the right hand side of every post (see pic.)
I just wrote a 20 minute reply and - darn - was in another tab and I accidentially closed the tab with my reply. So, from scratch...
You shouldn't be modifying templates. You also should not modify style attributes like headinclude, phpinclude_start, or phpinclude_end. You should be modifying css attributes and style basics such as 'Sizes and Dimensions'.
If you modify the FORUMHOME template in your style
, for example, it will 'freeze' so any changes I make in English - the base style - will not flow down to your style.
Why does this matter? Let's say I change the English header template - which I do every day or two. If you change that template in your style
, any changes I make will not flow down to your style. So - your style (in this case) will keep the same 'ticker' as existed when you made your change. Changes I make in English will not flow down to your style so anyone using your style will see an outdated 'ticker'. Which is not good.
If I take advertising and put it in a column on the side and the column isn't in your style, then people can use your style to peruse the boards without having to look at the advertising. A nice thought for folks, but an advertiser won't appreciate it.
Some sites are set up so that 'paid' members (Contributors here - same thing) can use a style where the advertising column is gone. I am considering that option.
I'll be looking at styles very soon, but I really want to establish English first so that the 'basics' are what I want. For example, as I said above, in the near future I will be adding a column on one side which involves template mods (this site loads slowly, but see http://www.vbulletintemplates.com/mo...ead.php?t=4904
and an example is at http://www.makeuptalk.com/forums/
Another example is at http://anzanime.net/
). The column will be for advertising (including yours) and stuff. If you modify a template in either of your styles, as opposed to an 'attribute' such as colours or 'Sizes and Dimensions', then the changes I do will not flow down to the templates in your styles.
In addition, I'm not sure how far I'll go with 'hacks' (mods). Take a look at http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/
- It's skinned and seriously hacked. I really like it, but it's a bit extreme for here, I think... The bottom line is most of this stuff is template hacks and I want to ensure any hacks I do flow down into your styles. If I do a 'hack' and it breaks one of your styles, let me know and we can look at the template together.
For right now, play away - but styles will be playing an important role in the future - like starting in early January, much moreso than in the past, so I want to make sure we're working together when it comes to any template changes. As you can see - templates are something we have to be together on before you change any.
With respect to the issue in post 9 in this thread, that's not a template change - it's a style 'Sizes and Dimensions' change which is OK to play with - just like css attributes.
Right now, I have the English style set to 'liquid'. The forum tables resize if you resize your browser window. They (vB) set the default to a fixed width in their new style, but they do have a 'liquid' style as a sub-style. I'm getting real used to styles and that's not a big change. I can easily make a fixed width style based upon English if someone wants one. Pre-Gamma was a 'liquid' style as English is now.
Atul, please spend some time in the 'English' style and let me know what failure modes you find - other than colour preferences. I think we might want to revert your styles and then you can redo the colours and such. I think you might find it easier - they changed table nesting and such. I thought I reverted all your styles and I know I failed (the red remained) so there is definitely stuff in conflict with the old pre-gamma style base.
And - do you want to keep 2 styles? And do you want to keep them nested as they are? It doesn't matter to me - just curious.