The Elsmar Cove Forum and Site Map The Elsmar Cove Wiki More Free Files The Elsmar Cove Forums Discussion Thread Index Post Attachments Listing Failure Modes Services and Solutions to Problems Elsmar cove Forums Main Page Elsmar Cove Home Page

Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Elsmar Cove Forum Essentials > Forum News and General Information > Old Forum News and Issues Threads Archive


The Elsmar Cove Forum SideBar!
Monitor the Forum
Monitor New Forum Posts
New Threads Feeds
RSS FeedRSS Feed
Sponsor Link










$ Contributor Forum Access
Courtesy Quick Links

Links that Elsmar Cove visitors will find useful in your quest for knowledge:


Howard's International Quality Services

Atul's Symphony Technologies

Dave Scott's Scott Quality Solutions

Praxiom Research Group


NIST's Engineering Statistics Handbook

IRCA - International Register of Certified Auditors

SAE - Society of Automotive Engineers

Quality Digest Portal

IEST - Institute of Environmental Sciences and Technology

ASQ - American Society for Quality


All the Important Standards and Related Web Sites in the World
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Content Display Modes
  #1  
Old 17th December 2003, 04:42 PM
Wes Bucey's Avatar
Wes Bucey Wes Bucey is offline
Quality Manager

Registration Date: Sep 2003
Location: Illinois
 
Posts: 7,536
Thanks Given to Others: 182
Thanked 1,127 Times in 762 Posts
Karma Power: 397
Karma: 11090
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Default Polls - New Votes Update 'Last Post Time'

I like the Cove in general. Just one thing irritates me:
When someone votes in a poll and does NOT add a comment, the system updates the thread as "new post" and adds the most recent person as the poster. Navigating to the last comment in the thread only to discover an old post is frustrating.
I wish there was a way to distinguish between posts of comments and poll entries without comments.
__________________
"Few minds wear out; more rust out"
Inscribed over the entrance of Louis Pasteur School, Chicago
Christian Nestell Bovee (1820-1904) in Thoughts, Feelings and Fancies, 1857
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 17th December 2003, 04:47 PM
isogirl's Avatar
isogirl isogirl is offline
Inactive Registered Visitor

Registration Date: Oct 2003
Location: Michigan
Age: 42
 
Posts: 33
Thanks Given to Others: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Karma Power: 28
Karma: 150
isogirl is appreciated, and has over 100 Karma points.isogirl is appreciated, and has over 100 Karma points.
Default

Now I understand...I was just checking a thread to see the "new post", but found only the old ones. Couldn't figure out why I didn't see a new post. It is a thread that contains a poll, though, so Wes you've cleared me up on that one.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

  #3  
Old 17th December 2003, 09:07 PM
Marc's Avatar
Marc Marc is online now
Your Elsmar Cove Host

Registration Date: Jan 1996
Location: West Chester, Ohio - USA
Age: 59
 
Posts: 15,857
Thanks Given to Others: 1,895
Thanked 1,566 Times in 1,018 Posts
Blog Entries: 4
Karma Power: 605
Karma: 11559
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Marc Send a message via Skype™ to Marc
Yin Yang Poll Votes Update Thread 'Last Post' Date

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wes Bucey

I wish there was a way to distinguish between posts of comments and poll entries without comments.
I have a choice of 2:

1. When someone votes, update the thread 'Last Post Date'.
2. When someone votes, do NOT update the thread 'Last Post Date'.

If I choose #2, the thread is effectively buried as time goes on.

I am interested in polls. No - they're not scientific, but they do relate some 'feel' as to what's happening. When someone votes but does not post I want to know. I'd like to see polls as they develop. Sometimes it's a vote by someone who was doing a search and found an old thread - they related and they 'voted'. Sometimes a thread is revived because someone votes and the thread pops back up.

I don't think anyone profits when polls are voted on but the thread isn't updated because there are a lot of people who vote but do not want to post for one reason or another - which sometimes is they simply have nothing to add to what has already been discussed. Like I say, if only personally I want that thread to pop up so I know a new vote was added.

I don't have the background to do a hack which would 'sift' the threads nor have I seen anyone asking at places such as the vB forums for such a hack.

The poll poster (the thread starter) CAN put a time limit on voting on a poll. If they do this, of course, the poll/thread is not an issue for you. But the decision to time limit a poll is up to the thread starter.
__________________
A Search is a terrible thing to waste!
One Test is Worth 1000 Expert Opinions - The plural of anecdote is not data.
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. - Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18th December 2003, 12:37 AM
Wes Bucey's Avatar
Wes Bucey Wes Bucey is offline
Quality Manager

Registration Date: Sep 2003
Location: Illinois
 
Posts: 7,536
Thanks Given to Others: 182
Thanked 1,127 Times in 762 Posts
Karma Power: 397
Karma: 11090
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc

I have a choice of 2:

1. When someone votes, update the thread 'Last Post Date'.
2. When someone votes, do NOT update the thread 'Last Post Date'.

When someone votes but does not post I want to know. I'd like to see polls as they develop. Sometimes it's a vote by someone who was doing a search and found an old thread - they related and they 'voted'. Sometimes a thread is revived because someone votes and the thread pops back up.

The poll poster (the thread starter) CAN put a time limit on voting on a poll. If they do this, of course, the poll/thread is not an issue for you. But the decision to time limit a poll is up to the thread starter.
I presumed this was the situation. Ah well. If wishes were dollars, I wouldn't need to wish any more.
__________________
"Few minds wear out; more rust out"
Inscribed over the entrance of Louis Pasteur School, Chicago
Christian Nestell Bovee (1820-1904) in Thoughts, Feelings and Fancies, 1857
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18th December 2003, 07:08 AM
Marc's Avatar
Marc Marc is online now
Your Elsmar Cove Host

Registration Date: Jan 1996
Location: West Chester, Ohio - USA
Age: 59
 
Posts: 15,857
Thanks Given to Others: 1,895
Thanked 1,566 Times in 1,018 Posts
Blog Entries: 4
Karma Power: 605
Karma: 11559
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Marc is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via AIM to Marc Send a message via Skype™ to Marc
Default

Yeah - this is an old issue which has been discussed a number of times in various threads because it surprises folks and I can understand why. It's certainly not readily apparent and to some it looks like the software is malfunctioning.
__________________
A Search is a terrible thing to waste!
One Test is Worth 1000 Expert Opinions - The plural of anecdote is not data.
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. - Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18th December 2003, 09:28 AM
D.Scott's Avatar
D.Scott D.Scott is offline
Super Moderator

Registration Date: Feb 2001
Location: Wellington, OH USA
Age: 69
 
Posts: 1,604
Thanks Given to Others: 80
Thanked 289 Times in 172 Posts
Karma Power: 149
Karma: 4082
D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via Yahoo to D.Scott
Default

Sticking my nose in -
What if you picked option 2 - do not update but made every poll a "sticky" which would keep them from being burried? Wouldn't this accomplish both not updating unless there were a message AND keeping the poll "on top and active"?

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18th December 2003, 12:28 PM
Wes Bucey's Avatar
Wes Bucey Wes Bucey is offline
Quality Manager

Registration Date: Sep 2003
Location: Illinois
 
Posts: 7,536
Thanks Given to Others: 182
Thanked 1,127 Times in 762 Posts
Karma Power: 397
Karma: 11090
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.Wes Bucey is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Default

EVERY poll? At that rate, old polls would crowd out new posts. Maybe just a reminder when forming a poll that it can be limited for time (or not?) Certainly, in the history of the Cove, some polls deserve to fade away.
__________________
"Few minds wear out; more rust out"
Inscribed over the entrance of Louis Pasteur School, Chicago
Christian Nestell Bovee (1820-1904) in Thoughts, Feelings and Fancies, 1857
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 18th December 2003, 01:58 PM
D.Scott's Avatar
D.Scott D.Scott is offline
Super Moderator

Registration Date: Feb 2001
Location: Wellington, OH USA
Age: 69
 
Posts: 1,604
Thanks Given to Others: 80
Thanked 289 Times in 172 Posts
Karma Power: 149
Karma: 4082
D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.D.Scott is appreciated, and has over 1700 Karma points.
Send a message via Yahoo to D.Scott
Default

That makes me think maybe there should be a section specifically for polls. Post comments to the specific topic and only record the polls in the poll section. That way when one is unused and old it will circulate to the bottom of the pile and management can decide to keep it around or not.

Dave
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation Bar
Go Back   The Elsmar Cove Forum > Elsmar Cove Forum Essentials > Forum News and General Information > Old Forum News and Issues Threads Archive

Bookmarks


Visitors Currently Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 Registered Visitors and 1 Unregistered Guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Forum Search
Display Modes Rate Thread Content
Rate Thread Content:

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Discussion Threads
Discussion Thread Title Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post or Poll Vote
Closed or Resolved: Vote on poll 'bubbles' thread up when someone votes but doesn't post Geoff Withnell Forum Suggestions, Complaints, Problems and Bug Reports 13 1st May 2008 01:54 PM
Post 'Thanks' hack - Update zeroed out everyone's 'Thanks' count Marc Old Forum News and Issues Threads Archive 9 15th April 2007 02:39 AM
At the end of the day, only votes count! Wes Bucey General News and Business Articles 5 11th November 2005 02:52 PM
Polls - How to post (start) a Poll in a thread? Easy... Claes Gefvenberg Instructions --> How to use the Forum Software 1 8th May 2005 06:38 PM
Last post indicator in threads with polls Howard Atkins Old Forum News and Issues Threads Archive 2 18th March 2005 08:11 AM



The time now is 06:23 PM. All times are GMT -4.
The time zone can be changed in your UserCP --> Options.



   

All Y'All Come Back Now, Y' Hear?

Made With A Mac! FreeBSD OS Powered by Apache!
Using php4 Forums provided and maintained by Marc Smith Database by MySQL

FAIR USE and CORRECTNESS NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe herein constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. In addition, I do not guarantee the correctness of the content. The risk of using content from the Elsmar Cove web site and forums remains with the user/visitor.

Responsibility Statement: Each person is responsible for anything they post in the Elsmar Cove forum. Neither I, Marc Timothy Smith, nor any of the forum Moderators, are responsible for the content of posts people make. Liability for post content resides with the poster as does interpretation and/or acceptance and/or use of advice by the reader.

Complaints: If you have a complaint with a post in a forum discussion thread, including Content in general, fighting, flaming, copyright infringement, defamation and/or 'slander', please use the 'Report This Post Report This Post Button button which appears at the top of every post in every thread.

Site courtesy of:
Marc Timothy Smith - Cayman Business Systems, 8466 Lesourdsville-West Chester Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069-1929 - USA
(513) 341-6272

To contact me, click the Google Voice link below, enter Your Name and Your Phone Number and Google will ring your phone and connect you for free!

The Elsmar Cove Web Site is *CopyFree*
no new posts