Federal Supply Service and General Services Administration: Fed-Std-368a 1979

[Douglas E. Purdy]

A Quality Control System Requirements utilized by the Federal Supply Service and General Services Administration, does anyone have any pointers to give with this rather antiquated standard? This is my first time and would appreciate any insights from those who deal with this requirement.

Thanks,
Doug

[Marc]

This came up a number of years ago with no info coming from it:
http://Elsmar.com/cgi-bin/archiveboard.cgi?read=374

I've never seen Fed-Std-368a, personally, but I'd bet it's akin to MIL-Q-9858 which I am very familiar with.

Sorry I can't help beyond that.

[Al Rosen]

I just took a look at it. It's more like Mil-I-45208, a basic inspection system. The standard is 3 pages long. I've attached it to this post.

[Al Rosen]

Originally Posted by Douglas E. Purdy

A Quality Control System Requirements utilized by the Federal Supply Service and General Services Administration, does anyone have any pointers to give with this rather antiquated standard? This is my first time and would appreciate any insights from those who deal with this requirement.

Thanks,
Doug

Although I've not had experience with this particular fed std, from my quick review, I would say any ISO compliant system would probably comply with this std. It requires

1. Training
2. Management review of the QC system
3. Receiving inspection
4. In-process inspection
5. Final inspection, including thee verification that all quality and contract requirements are met
6. Statistical techniques & Sampling plans
7. Inspection status and control of NC material
8. Calibration of M&TE
9. Records
10. Written procedures
11. Document & Data control

Do you have a specific question?

[Douglas E. Purdy]

No Al, I am just trying to present a Quality Control System to comply with the Standard. We have been in the process of changing our 1994 QMS to the 2000 revision (did not register to 1994) and now have to meet this standard that the GSA is re-instituting with new solicitations. The process was dropped in 2001.

Thanks,
Doug

[Marc]

Since you're dealing with GSA stuff, are there any other old standards they're bringing back to life that you are aware of?

[Al Rosen]

Originally Posted by Douglas E. Purdy

No Al, I am just trying to present a Quality Control System to comply with the Standard. We have been in the process of changing our 1994 QMS to the 2000 revision (did not register to 1994) and now have to meet this standard that the GSA is re-instituting with new solicitations. The process was dropped in 2001.

Thanks,
Doug

Doug:

Seems like you're ok. You could include the 368a std in the scope of your manual and develop a matrix to cross reference the std requirements with your QM sections or reference them directly within your manual.

[Wes Bucey]

Originally Posted by Al Rosen

Doug:

Seems like you're ok. You could include the 368a std in the scope of your manual and develop a matrix to cross reference the std requirements with your QM sections or reference them directly within your manual.

I agree. Just drop the whole topic in as a subset of 5.2 Customer Focus in ISO9k2k.
As an adjunct to the inclusion under 5.2, you could also create a comparison grid [matrix] as a graphic to relate specific sections in Fed-std-368a 1979 to the relevant sections under ISO9k2k, and further point out:
"Where relevant to specific customer requirements, we will also include Procedures and Processes as the need arises. This specifically includes any and all requirements contained in Fed-std-368a 1979 as well as any future requirements of present or future customers."