Salary Range for a TS 16949 Coordinator?

[AMR123]

What is the going salary range for a TS coordinator. I am in the negotiating stage of the process of a job offer. Not much out there on the web to support a position. Hurry !

[Jennifer Kirley]

This is going to be sketchy unless someone with more direct input can weigh in.

Do you have a copy of December 2003 Quality Progress? I am taking the Table B salary survey off of page 40, under "Coordinator" title, and according to how many years in Quality.

.........................Min............Max...........Mean..........Median....# inputs

<1 year............$25,000.....$80,000.......$43,219........$42,000.......15
1-3 years...........24,000.......88,000........46,420..........43,499.......68
3.1-6 years........22,000......120,000........47,233..........44,500.......99
6.1-10 years......23,000........93,000........46,965..........45,000......105
10.1-20 years.....24,000......109,000........54,593..........51,144.......84
>20 years..........30,000......100,000........54,454..........51,750.......32
0 yrs experience..35,700.......72,000........45,425..........37,000........4

I hope this helps!

Jennifer

[Wes Bucey]

Military and Industry have a phrase, "Mission Creep" which describes the process of scope and other requirements of a "mission" being expanded far beyond the original intent.

My experience with customers and suppliers is that the job title, itself, has less to do with the value of the position than the real scope of tasks expected for the position.

Example:
Banks and financial companies used to hand out the title "vice president" to everyone above "teller." The result was the proliferation of "Senior," "Executive," "Group," "Division," "Corporate," and other modifiers for "Vice President" to differentiate relative importance when the title became cheapened.

Similarly, organizations have different scopes for jobs with the same title. "Quality Manager" at one organization may be an inspector with an exaggerated title, while "Quality Engineer" at another organization may encompass tasks up to, and including, creating organization-wide quality policies and procedures, as well as aspects of Operations Manager.

Many of the detailed job descriptions I see for "Quality Coordinator" in the Midwest seem to be primarily clerk jobs (shuffling papers and filing records) wherein the tasks call more for computer savvy and filing expertise than for education or experience on the "tools of quality." This is especially true when I see code phrases such as "assist Quality Manager" or "Supports QM relative to meetings, presentations or data collection."

This is the main reason I see for a disparity of approximately $60,000/year for coordinators on the job for less than 3 years (in the ASQ survey reported by Jennifer.)

In my opinion, the value of a coordinator's salary should have a base equal to any clerk dealing with the same amount of records anywhere in the organization, with increases based on added value due to

• understanding and interpreting Standards in relation to the work of the organization,
• creating procedures and forms based on understanding of the process under consideration in relation to the requirements of the Standard.
• training other employees of the organization in understanding relation of each Procedure, form, or record to the "big picture."

Another aspect of the valuation is the likelihood of continued employment. I have seen several companies hire "coordinators" only to dump them once registration has been received, reasoning "the job is done."

Bottom line:
Criteria for coordinator wage:

• scope of work
• size of organization
• permanence of position

[Wes Bucey]

Originally Posted by energy

I see serious responses to somebody with one post. Is it me? Do you have a life or really think this needs attention?

As a professional, I see a responsibility to put out information for everyone on the TOPIC, not just whether the initial poster deserves a reply. In my opinion, questions about dealing with something as serious as a career choice deserve a serious answer.

The very fact Google spiders are constantly going through the Cove verifies that the comments we make may be seen by many more than regular visitors to the Cove.

As I write this post, mine will be the next post after Energy's #4, but the tally shows 38 entities have already viewed this particular thread. I think of all the times I look at a "cached" entry in Google as I research any topic and know that many more than 38 people will see my response over the next year or so. Because of that, I try to make the comment worthwhile.

In addition, EVERYONE has a right to make his first post. It wasn't so long ago I made my first post. If I had a different personality, I might have been discouraged from posting by mean-spirited gibes from "regulars" and not been able to offer the benefit of my experience and knowledge.

I am one of the few posters who uses his real name and declines to snipe at others from the cover of an anonymous screen name.

Since I do sign my real name every time, I try to behave like the responsible professional I consider myself. Maybe the only real "police action" we need is a little sunshine on our identities.

[Jennifer Kirley]

"I see serious responses to somebody with one post. Is it me? Do you have a life or really think this needs attention?"

Me too, and yes, and yes.

A couple of years ago a federal agency asked me to justify a salary I had quoted in a research grant proposal as the project's Principal Investigator. I cited my asserted position within the ASQ's salary survey spread of that period; as a statistical, verifiable, professional source it was accepted without further question. And so goes the basis of salary negotiation.

I similarly surmise that the poster is potentially asking for nothing more than this, an "official" industry-based guideline against which to base a request upon which further negotiation may, or may not proceed. Without reason to do otherwise, I'll choose to take this poster at face value and respond to a simple request with a simple answer.

The fact that it is this particular poster's first appearance at this particular site is rather a moot point to me. I prefer that a person ask for help when it matters, rather than not at all; my personal unofficial motto is "He who ask, shall receive maybe; he who don't ask, shall receive diddly."

[Marc]

I deleted the post as very irresponsible.

I apologise.

[AMR123]

I appreciate the comments to my original post. The Cove has been and will be a help to many of the less experienced Professional people. Mentoring is what I feel is the purpose of the Cove.

Thank you for the support.
AMR123

Originally Posted by Marc

I deleted the post as very irresponsible.

I apologise.

Looking back it, you are correct. I should have asked, "Why would anyone involved in salary negotiations need to register here for assistance and put "hurry" in the post? How did you end up in this position? What was the original game plan? What is your actual experience in? Sorry, it came out "irresponsible".