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View Poll Results: Are you making what the survey indicates you should be?
More than what the survey says. (Assumed 45+ hours) 14 25.45%
The same but for more than 45 hours. 3 5.45%
The same for about 40 to 45 hours. 9 16.36%
Less than what the survey says for 40 to 45 hours. 20 36.36%
Less than what the survey says - more than 45 hours. 9 16.36%
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Old 2nd May 2004, 03:33 AM
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Money Quality Digest 2004 Salary Survey - Yearly Elsmar Cove Poll - Where do YOU stand?

The 2004 Quality Digest 2004 Salary Survey is out - the below link is to the home page.

http://www.qualitydigest.com/

From the article:

"If you like numbers (And what self-respecting quality professional doesn’t?), salary surveys present hours of entertainment. This is particularly true if you try to correlate survey results to your own situation or if you compare one year’s results to another’s.

Questions abound: “Why don’t I make as much as what the survey shows I should?” “Why does a vice president make more than a president or CEO?” “Should I move to the West Coast, home of higher salaries, Starbucks and a governor who can bench press twice his weight in quality consultants?”

Unfortunately, we can’t answer these questions. However, we can present all the data, let you draw your own conclusions and offer a few observations of our own.

If you’re new to salary surveys, here are some of the rules: A survey of this type is only a guideline, a yardstick that gives some indication of where your salary should be relative to other positions--not an absolute indicator of how much you should be making. To get the most out of the data, look at your position from every angle: regional, industry and broad title classification (e.g., executive, manager, technical). This will give you a general idea of where you stand. If you find your salary is much lower than the average salary, no matter which table you look at, you may have cause for concern."
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Old 3rd May 2004, 12:56 PM
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I voted less than what the survey shows for more than 45 hours. However, I need to state that is for the job I am currently working. Now with that said I will only be here two more weeks and if I was to vote based on my new employeer I would have voted the same for about 40-45 hours.
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Old 3rd May 2004, 01:55 PM
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I voted "more" based on my most recent full-time employment. I have finally pulled the pin on full-time employment and am now ready to consider interesting opportunities to help folks on relatively short-term projects where I can help on-site folks learn how to continue once I leave. I will continue to expand my speech and seminar business, but I do not intend to become a full-time road warrior like some of my friends who are away from home 200 days and nights per year.

I'm really looking for situations which will make good case-study material for a book I am starting to flesh out. If you hear of one, be sure to let me know.
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I am currently making much less than stated but next Monday is my last day at this employer. I just took a promotion to a director of quality at an iron powder facility for a significant increase in salary with the likelyhood of an excellent bonus as well. Taking the position was not just for money there is also a much greater appreciation for quality there as well. Where I am at now production is the rule. If we make it someone will buy it.
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Sean, Wes, Aaron,

Congratulations! Nothing like moving-up in the work world, and doing it on your terms. May your tribe increase!
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If you take CQE, consultant, master's degree and western, you pretty much hit my salary at my 40 hour job within a few thousand dollars. But in addition I teach evening courses and do a little side consulting, so that would bring me to I make more than the salary survey predicts, but at about 48 to 55 total hours worked.

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Does the survey take into account effects of Multiple ASQ Certifications?

Say an employee gets an increment for every additional ASQ certifications that adds value to the organization and relevant to job responsibility. How should we interpret this in the survey?
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Well above. Ofcourse european salary levels may differ significantly from american but one thing i do get out of is that i don't need to move to the states or Canada to earn more money!
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