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Question IATF Certification Rules - "Rules for Achieving IATF Recognition" 2nd edition soon?
Is there a "wild fire" that the Automotive Certification Scheme for ISO/TS 16949:2002 : "Rules for Achieving IATF Recognition" will undergo its 2nd. edition soon???

Our TS auditor told us that IATF is working on the 2nd. Edition of this "Rule" that require an additional "audit" for readiness before the actual initial / certiifcation audit.

It was mentioned that there will be one document review audit, followed by readiness audit. If necessary NCRS will be issued for these two audits. The auditing organization have to address corrective actions to address the NCRs and closed by the auditors before the actual initial certification audit have to be conducted.

Does anyone heard this "change of wind"?
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I would seriously doubt that a mandatory practice audit is being considerd. The existing "rules" describe the methods for submission of documents to your CB. Any competant CB should be able to determine by review whether or not you are ready for the certification audit.
As for the certification audit, all open NCR's must be closed prior to receiving a certificate. And if you read the fine print of your contract you will find that the CB can, at your expense, return to verify major NCR's.
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Here is the latest draft. There are mnay changes that are interesting.
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Whoa, there are some pretty significant changes there.

I'd recommend looking at the table of changes in the back first, instead of reading through the whole thing trying to spot them like I did...
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Thanks, Bauld. It is really interesting to note that ITAF is working on many changes.
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Is it true that all the CB representatives are now in Detriot (IAOB/AIAG office) to discuss about the draft of TS Rules 2nd. Edition?

Any idea when the 2nd. edition will be published and enforced?
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IATF issued certification rule 2nd edition on May 31, 2004.( Only Final draft!!)
The Final draft have many seriously changes to requirements for TS CB.
I have a the final draft what issued by IATF.
Let me know your E-mail.. I will send to you for your reference..

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