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21st October 2004, 08:01 PM
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Marketing Requirements vs Product Specifications
I'm pretty confuse, what do you think would be the first document to release in document control, a marketing requirement document or a product specifications? Our web based system is requiring us to release first the product specs but our product development procedure is marketing reqmnts first before product specs? Please help
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21st October 2004, 09:17 PM
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I'm pretty confuse, what do you think would be the first document to release in document control, a marketing requirement document or a product specifications? Our web based system is requiring us to release first the product specs but our product development procedure is marketing reqmnts first before product specs? Please help 
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If I understand you correctly, the software you use for issuing documents has a "lock" which dictates the order in which documents "should" be created and will prevent you from issuing a document type out of order.
If it were my organization, I would first approach the software creator to seek a modification of the "rule" describing the order in which documents are created and released. If that failed, I would look at a short-term "workaround" while I sought new software. A workaround which springs to mind: Create a "draft" product specs document which clearly identifies it as DRAFT, then create and issue the REAL desired document (marketing requirements.) Go back and modify the draft document when ready.
In my opinion, software must serve the organization's business plan, not vice-versa. It is silly to try and adapt your business system to meet someone else's idea of process flow.
The days of computer/geek tyrants running around in white lab coats and working in super air conditioned rooms is long gone. The organization must be in control of its processes.
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I so much agree with Wes on this one that I gave him some Karma !
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I so much agree with Wes on this one that I gave him some Karma !  V
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I have seen references to Karma and even have noticed my Karma. How do you give Karma, what is its significance and is it used much?
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You are not the first one to ask. Happy to oblige  Here is how to award Karma.. and yes, it's in pretty frequent use.
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You are not the first one to ask. Happy to oblige  Here is how to award Karma.. and yes, it's in pretty frequent use.
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Thanks Wes! I'll follow your advice, that's really a good idea. I'll create it as a draft for now and talk to the tech support to correct the problem.
One more thing, does Marketing requirement fall under ISO's 7.2.3?
I didn't know about that "karma". I'll give you one too!
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I appreciate Karma, but I appreciate knowing that someone has actually been able to use my suggestions successfully even more.
So, if I could ask on behalf of all of us who offer advice to folks here in the Cove:
"Please come back after you have tried our advice and tell us how it works for you!"
Consider this the feedback and evaluation we need to fine tune our advice to help the next person who has a similar problem. In nearly forty years of business, I have changed and refined my own practices many times to meet changing conditions. Advice I would have given even five years ago would be obsolete today. I don't ever want to be some relic who pontificates by beginning every sentence, "Back in my day . . ."
 Heck, I even have a grudging appreciation for the inroads 6S has made into the executive suite at many organizations. The 6S folk have managed to institutionalize techniques of dealing with executives which I and others of my acquaintance worked out by trial and error over long careers and only passed on in private communication with others.
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