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chuy sanchez Forum Contributor Posts: 14 |
posted 10 March 2000 01:15 PM
   
I JUST READ THE RQUIREMENTS OF TS/16949 EDITED BY GM ON HTTP://www.GMSUPPLIER.COM AND LOOK LIKE IS FOR european suppliers, but no say anything about it implementation, someone have read yet? thanks IP: Logged |
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Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
posted 10 March 2000 01:36 PM
I can't gain access to the info - the site is restricted. What do they say there? IP: Logged |
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chuy sanchez Forum Contributor Posts: 14 |
posted 10 March 2000 02:42 PM
on this site you can enter on public area, on developer suppliers, or engeenering area. So you can access all the info, but this main thing is : they are required this rules as soon they are on the marketing and only for european suppliers... please if you can access i would like your comments. IP: Logged |
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Howard Atkins Forum Wizard Posts: 202 |
posted 12 March 2000 01:16 AM
HTTP://www.GMSUPPLIER.COM/apps/gsnhome/supplierquality/procedures-manuals/ww_purch/index.htm at bottom of page IP: Logged |
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Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
posted 13 March 2000 03:11 AM
Thanks, Howard! As always we appreciate your help! Now... Let us consider something quite 'interesting'. Read 4.2.11 "Other QS-9000 Requirements" quote:I guess this means that you have to do the 16949 dance but you must also determine (like I guess I'd use a matrix to compare) what is in QS9000 but is not in TS16949 and comply with the extra stuff from QS9000 as well as the TS16949 requirements. Excuse me? Say it ain't so, Joe! Dis ain't complicated enough!!! Way to go GM! Please do confuse the issue(s)! Also see http://Elsmar.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000014.html and http://Elsmar.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000266.html IP: Logged |
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ml retcher Forum Contributor Posts: 22 |
posted 12 May 2000 07:13 AM
Just yesterday I attended a workshop for TS 16949. There are 35 more shalls. Many to do with employee satisfaction, labs, audits (process, product) and process design requirements. From what was said in the workshop the big 3 have not committed yet. However there is not a team rewriting QS but there is a team finalizing TS. I say in 3 years it will be the standard of the times. IP: Logged |
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Jim Biz Forum Wizard Posts: 275 |
posted 12 May 2000 07:47 AM
Ohh No - Don't let Barb read this - (somebody's counting again  )I've pryed the "count how many" keys off my keyboard Jim IP: Logged |
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Roger Eastin Forum Wizard Posts: 345 |
posted 12 May 2000 08:29 AM
Yeah, it looks like a few (35?) more "shalls" in TS. But I wonder, like Marc, what's in QS that is not in TS? Has anybody looked at that? I guess we better figure it out if QS isn't going away for 3 or so years. IP: Logged |
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jtsteadman2001@yahoo.com unregistered |
posted 15 February 2001 11:19 AM
QS! TS! - I contend the total quality system is my suppliers issue. Lets go back to zero defects and quality process control. The focsus is and always will be product quality. What's in the DFMEA, PFMEA, quality conrtol Plan, traceability and run@rate? Have we documented the process correctly and through run@rate have we verified its First Time Through rates for quality and production yields? IP: Logged |
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jtsteadman2001@yahoo.com unregistered |
posted 15 February 2001 11:22 AM
QS! TS! - I contend the total quality system is my suppliers issue. Lets go back to zero defects and quality process control. The focus is and always will be product quality. What's in the DFMEA, PFMEA, quality conrtol Plan, traceability and run@rate? Have we documented the process correctly and through run@rate have we verified its First Time Through rates for quality and production yields? IP: Logged |
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