posted 17 August 1999 04:01 PM               

A. Could participation in this forum qualify as CPD for ISO 9000/14000 RAB Auditors?

1. This forum is sponsored.

2. This forum encompasses appropriate subject matter.

3. Participation can be documented.

B. Who could sign off as the activity provider?

posted 18 August 1999 10:41 AM               

Interesting question. I have wondered about that myself, for my ASQ accreditations. In the ASQ, they mention that writing and publishing papers is one means of accumulating the required CEU to maintain certification. In general, what the ASQ wants from a candidate is for them to maintain current knowledge of quality fields and increase awareness in these fields (quality in general). If I could, I would use these posts as a means of keeping current, learning new things, and helping out where ever I could. What merit is it worth? On a personal level, plenty. On the perspective of the ASQ (or RAB or anyone else), the answer remains a mystery to me.

Regards,

posted 18 August 1999 12:39 PM               

Webster defines a 'forum' as a medium for open discussion. This place fits that description.

posted 18 August 1999 03:29 PM               

If there's anything I can do to help out just let me know.

posted 23 August 1999 05:10 PM               

HEY MARC....we talked a bit about online training here........what ya say, wanna do it? How much interest is there, guys.....Who wants some online classes offerred here? And what topics?

Anyone call RAB?

posted 01 September 1999 07:01 PM               

The way topics are brought up, disected, discussed and everything else can be looked upon as providing people like us, in the auditing realm, a means of furthering our understanding and skills. It doesn't matter if it's ISO or QS or whatever, most of the subject matter applies. Or it at least gets you to thinking.

I personally have gained a better understanding in things like document control, work instructions and other topics from what I have read here on these pages.

posted 02 September 1999 06:53 PM               

I even check out things that I have no involvement in at all, like the QS stuff.

It has been said that knowledge is power, and reading what occurs on this forum imparts knowledge to those that desire it.

posted 03 September 1999 08:02 AM               

Definately not boring. I think you are right in suspecting that folks were on vacation and likely to pick up the pace in the fall/winter months.

As for the format: it is the best that I have seen on the internet so far (blows away the ASQNet). Your idea on the moderators is a good one. It will help sustain involvement. One thing that I have noticed at the ASQNet is that often questions go unanswered. I have not seen that here. Always a moderator or contributor ready to supply help or to second the motion.

I had a discussion in the ASQNet to see if Randy's thoughts would provoke thought there. I received a positive response from two of the moderators in that they thought that this uncharted area might prove worthwhile. I did receive one negative input from a contributor, whose thinking was that a collection of ideas or thoughts did not warrant consideration and were often wrong. The question does remain as to how credit will be structured. But I think it isn't any more difficult in that the other, somewhat subjective contributing areas, already exist. I will keep tuned to this discussion to see how this will sift out, and contribute where I can. I wouldn't want to see this thought die prematurely.

Regards,

posted 03 September 1999 03:46 PM               

--> Subject: Moderator Notification: New Post in QS9000 Issues Date:
--> Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:16:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Marc To:
--> cheech@Elsmar.com
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--> Hello, Marc Smith!
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--> Marc Smith has just replied to the topic entitled - MSA and the 3rd
--> Edition - in the QS9000 Issues forum of Cayman Systems Information
--> Forums.
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--> This topic is located at
--> http://Elsmar.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000186.html
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--> Here is what the user posted:
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--> quote:The problem is that if I was to carry out an MSA study on each
--> 'live' part, I would have to carry out...

I really do hate it when there is an unanswered question. But - I miss some from time to time my self.

posted 07 September 1999 07:38 AM               

I agree with your comment about the fact that folks may be right or wrong with responses within the forum, and in fact, doesn't matter all that much.

The contributor who rebutted (at the other forum)had written an article which was published several years back and had to go through several screenings and rewrites before the article appeared. As part of the ASQ accreditation maintenance, publishing articles or books count, no mention of forum discussion (the rules haven't changed much and they were created before the INTERNET). It was this contributors opinion that writing posts in a forum was not as significant as writing an article or book (often wrong or merely thoughts or ideas). Forum posts do not require screening or rewrites and are required to pass a minimum standard (whatever that might be, by the way). I don't agree with this view point. Books and articles are often as wrong as comments made anywhere. As you stated, whether a comment made is right or wrong, it is the exchange that forwards the thinking process. Just because one person writes something perceived to be wrong, doesn't mean that 10 other people aren't there agreeing with it (regardless of whether they post support or not). All 11 have equal opportunity to change their view based on the "correct" information be posted by another contributor. That is what is significant to me. Not as many "gurus" here than some would imagine. Many Quality (and non Quality) professionals and nonprofessionals here learning and sharing. All good stuff!

Marc,

Give me a shout if you are looking for moderators in the future, I would like to help you out if I can.

Regards to both,