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nln123 Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 2 |
Is there any easy methods/ways to remember the ISO 9001 clauses 4.1- 4.20 clauses .I get always confused .It will be useful particularly when doing Quality audits? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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John C Forum Contributor Posts: 134 |
N.Lakshminarayana, I was working with ISO 9002 for quite a while before I discovered the convenient way the standard was put together with everything in Īreal timeā order. From that moment I developed a liking for the standard and admiration for the people who first designed it (BS or US Mil Std people before them?). Suddenly, I could visualise the standard laid out on the system it was supposed to control instead of just as an arbitrary set of requirements. It is still useful for me but, unfortunately, ISO 9001:2000 will probably put an end to this. I see the standard broken into 4 distinct areas and it is very easy to remember them this way; Section 1. Managementās direct involvement; 4.1 and 4.2; Section 2; Getting down to business - dealing with the customer and the purchasing responsibilities; Section 3. We are into the manufacturing (or business) area; It starts with controlling the flow of product (4.8) and the process (4.9), then inspection and test of what we build 4.10, which brings us to the need for control of test equipment (4.11) and indication of test status (4.12). Section 4. Reviewing and tidying up; Having contracted for a job and finally delivered the product, we now make sure our records are in place (4.16) and review our performance (4.17) before getting on with the next job. We probably find we need some extra training (4.18) and we may even get a call for some servicing (4.19) (whatever that means - I never figured this out - some people think it means repairing field returns but I think it means visiting your customer and maintaining or repairing equipment) [This message has been edited by John C (edited 25 October 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Al Dyer Forum Wizard Posts: 622 |
No easy method, Read, Absorb, Understand, and only answer questions after you review the standards. ASD... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Steven Truchon Forum Contributor Posts: 89 |
I dont try to remember, that requires use of valuable memory space IP: Logged |
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Randy Forum Wizard Posts: 228 |
When asked for his phone number one time, Albert Einstein looked it up in a phone book. He said it was a waste to remember something that he could go to a reference for. I feel the same way about clauses. IP: Logged |
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Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
quote:It took me a couple of years but after - well, I guess it's been 8 years or more - I pretty much know the old version by heart. The new version I will learn the old fashioned way - as I use it, sooner or later I'll remember it all. Probably. Hopefully. I'm getting old... IP: Logged |
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Greg Mack Forum Contributor Posts: 37 |
It is really like learning the words to a song. You never really get it all until you listen over and over. The same with the Standard. It is easy to remember though if you think about it in an orderly manner. For example, The way it is structured would be how the parts of the system should be strung together in order - at least it works that way for me. I am very comfortable with the new Standard already, and know it pretty much off hand. I achieved this by reading not only ISO9001, but 9004 and HB 90.0 (which helped me relate new sections to the old) After that, I completed an adequacy audit on our current system to the new Standard. If you don't want to do that, then you could tape you own voice reading each clause and play the tape each night before you go to bed. IP: Logged |
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