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Greg Mack Forum Contributor Posts: 37 |
posted 20 February 2001 05:05 AM
   
I would like to know what some people are using in the way of forms to capture Corrective/Preventive Actions. We use to use a "CAR" Corrective Action Request, and have modified it to become an "Issue Notification". The one problem is that most staff see this form for "issues" only - ie. Corrective Action. Are there any different types of forms that others use to promote both corrective AND preventive action? I look forward to your replies. IP: Logged |
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Jim Biz Forum Wizard Posts: 275 |
posted 20 February 2001 07:34 AM
I'd be interested to see these forms as well. We tried a simple - "Combo" type form - Used a box checkoff to identify what the form was addressing Cor/Prevent/ Non-Com only but it did not work well for us. Frankly IMHO would suggest you keep them separate. We found it to easy to confuse the issues when reported on one from format. What happened was both Corrective and Preventative went un-reported because of the confusion....not only when filling out the form and deciding what was Corrective - what was Preventative - but in explaining how we handled and recorded the info to our external auditor. Regards [This message has been edited by Jim Biz (edited 20 February 2001).] IP: Logged |
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Dan Larsen Forum Contributor Posts: 137 |
posted 20 February 2001 05:43 PM
I've used a single form successfully. I use a check off box and then allow the PA's to remain open provided the person responsible for tracking gets a monthly report of progress. It seems to work. The real issue is defining what's corrective and what's preventive. That can be difficult whether you have one system or two. I tend to use the CPAR form as a cover and collector form for any information relating to the project. In many cases, a section on the form may say "Refer to attached documentation". I've also seen "preventive action" documented within a "continuous improvement" system. The system documents meeting minutes and any documentation (notes, letters, etc.) associated with the project. IP: Logged |
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Al Dyer Forum Wizard Posts: 622 |
posted 09 March 2001 03:30 PM
Greg, I have sent you a form that combines CA/PA and addresses systemic process concerns. The form is straight forward and can be edited. (Word) ASD... IP: Logged |
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George Trybulski Forum Contributor Posts: 21 |
posted 13 March 2001 08:56 PM
Oh Boy, Hear I go ! I have a CAR/MRR (corrective action request /material review report) database that was made in access. Has all the bells and whistles for the whole shebang including a report. I will probably be bombarded by you people, but a copy may be available. IP: Logged |
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D.Scott Forum Contributor Posts: 37 |
posted 14 March 2001 07:15 AM
Bomb #1 George - I would love to see it. Thanks dscott@forestcitytech.com Dave IP: Logged |
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Beth unregistered |
posted 14 March 2001 11:49 AM
I'd be interested in a copy, also. Thx. mbceng@erinet.com attention Beth IP: Logged |
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Greg Mack Forum Contributor Posts: 37 |
posted 15 March 2001 02:33 AM
Me too George. Thanks. IP: Logged |
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wally dniprenko Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 4 |
posted 15 March 2001 07:00 AM
Hi George, I would also like to see it. Thanks, wally ------------------ IP: Logged |
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wally dniprenko Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 4 |
posted 15 March 2001 07:16 AM
Hi Greg, I'm sending you the form that we use, CA/PA that we call a CIAR (Continuous Improvement Action Request). It's a bilingual, French and English, Word 97 doc that's editable. With effort and some training we are getting results. The important factor is training and management buy-in. Good luck, wally ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Cheryl Forum Contributor Posts: 19 |
posted 15 March 2001 08:18 AM
Bomb # 3 Please George, I would appreciate a copy of your file. Cherylp@Techform.com IP: Logged |
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Jim Webb Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 3 |
posted 15 March 2001 12:13 PM
I would also like a copy. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Russ unregistered |
posted 16 March 2001 02:42 PM
I would like a copy of that database too George. pater@netusa1.net IP: Logged |
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Todd W Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 3 |
posted 13 April 2001 12:06 PM
I would like a copy of that database too George toddwstr@aol.com IP: Logged |
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Dawn Welsh unregistered |
posted 18 April 2001 11:21 AM
Hello I am new to this forum. However, in my company I use one form for non-conformances. The NCR form has a starts by stating what the non-conformance is and identifying the root cause. Immediate corrective action must occur withing the first 478 hours. Then a date is set for long term corrective action of that problem. I have a separte form for Corrective & Preventive Action. This would be for chronic or more major issues and problems. If anyone would like a copy of these, I would be happy to e-mail them to you. Hope this is helpful. Dawn IP: Logged |
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Kyle Colleen Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 3 |
posted 18 April 2001 12:06 PM
Hello Dawn, Sample copies would be great, Thanks! My E-mail address is colleen.kyle@directinsite.com IP: Logged |
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energy Forum Contributor Posts: 228 |
posted 18 April 2001 01:28 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dawn Welsh: [B]Hello Immediate corrective action must occur withing the first 478 hours. Then a date is set for long term corrective action of that problem. Dawn, IP: Logged |
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