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Monica Lewis
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posted 27 July 1998 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monica Lewis   Click Here to Email Monica Lewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are a small company, which coats intraocular lenses. This medical device is sold to a US company. The Company sterilizes the product and sells the product to the customer (eye specialist).For how long time should our company retain the quality record?

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Marc Smith
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posted 27 July 1998 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which quality record? You probably have more than 1.

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posted 27 July 1998 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monica Lewis   Click Here to Email Monica Lewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear marc,

All the Quality records that are mentioned in ISO 9001

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Monica

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posted 27 July 1998 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISO9001 does not specify records other than to say you have to identify those records your company believes affect quality. I don't have any FDA regs here nor is it my specialty so I don't know if they give any specific times - But ISO9001 does not specify retention times.

In short, your company should have a list of what it considers 'quality records' and each record must have a designated retention time - which your company also determines. Be ready to discuss why your company chose the retention time for each record.

Does that help?

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Don Winton
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posted 27 July 1998 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Winton   Click Here to Email Don Winton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
21 CFR 820.180(b) states "All records required by this part shall be retained for a period of time equivalent to the design and expected life of the device, but in no case less than 2 years from the date of release for commercial distribution by the manufacturer." If, as stated, you supply product to another party, I would think that, as a minimum, that two years would be required. Be sure to justify by objective evidence the reasoning for this decision. Hope this helps.

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Marc Smith
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posted 27 July 1998 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Don. I'm FDA ignorant. I appreciate your taking the 'job' of forum moderator!

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Monica Lewis
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posted 28 July 1998 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monica Lewis   Click Here to Email Monica Lewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Don and Marc,

Thanks for answering my question.

Marc according to ISO 9001, I can come up with the following records that are required:

Management review (4.1.3)
Quality planing (4.2.3 h)
Records of contract review (4.3.4)
Records of design review (4.4.6)
Records of design verification measures (4.4.7)
Quality records of acceptable subcontractors (4.6.2c)
Records for damage, loss of customer supplied products (4.7)
Product identification (4.8)
Records for any qualification of process operations etc (4.9)
Where in coming products is released (4.10.2.3 This may not be required)
Records identifying the inspection authority responsible for the release of produc(4.10.5)
Records regarding the extent and frequency of control of inspection (4.11.1)
Calibration records (4.11.2 e)
Record for the description of the nonconformity etc (4.13.2)
Investigation records (4.14.2)
Records of internal audits (4.17)
Training records (4.18)

Did I do my math well?

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posted 28 July 1998 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty much so - looks like a fine list to me - But there *may* be other records in your company.

When I work with a company in compliance one of the first things I do is ask them to take a DETAILED tour of the company at large and make a list of all the paperwork they find taking a copy of each as it is found.

Then comes categorizing and matrixing the documents. The intent is a 'discovery' of all the types of documents in the company.

So in short - yoiur list may serve as a minimum (ISO9001 wise) but does not preclude others.

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posted 28 July 1998 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Winton   Click Here to Email Don Winton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Monica,

Marc is very correct. Your list is complete as far as ISO 9000 is concerned. But, the QSR is more stringent than ISO in some areas. It should be prudent to review the QSR, cross tab to ISO and tailor your system to that. The system in place at my firm incorporates the most comprehensive clauses from each (covered on both bases).

As an addendum to my previous post. I do not know the details of your firm's business. The records required shall be for the life of the device but in no case less than two years. Under the assumption you supply a customer (as a vendor) and not an end user, two years should be sufficient. I have *.pdf and *.doc of many publications from the CDRH, if you would like copies, please me know.

Don

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Monica Lewis
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posted 29 July 1998 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monica Lewis   Click Here to Email Monica Lewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don,

Iwould like to have a copy of publications from the CDRH

Monica

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posted 29 July 1998 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barb butrym   Click Here to Email barb butrym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like copies as well..if you would
Or perhaps you could post them here in *.pdf world.


thanks
Barb
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posted 29 July 1998 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Winton   Click Here to Email Don Winton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have collected three or four dozen documents that refer to the CDRH in particular and the FDA in general. Is there anything in particular you have interest in? If Marc is interested, I could forward to him to post on His board.
Don

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posted 29 July 1998 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Send 'em - I'll post 'em.

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posted 31 July 1998 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Winton   Click Here to Email Don Winton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marc, I will forward as I get them into an organized structure. Please watch.

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posted 01 August 1998 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Winton   Click Here to Email Don Winton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marc, publications are on their way.

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