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vishal
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posted 21 March 1999 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is TPM similar to TQM???

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posted 21 March 1999 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not. TPM can be a part of TQM. TPM is a 'program' or set of tools. TQM (per se) is a 'philosophy'.

You have some reading to do!

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posted 21 March 1999 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi - yes i know that i have some reading to do!
i've got a university management essay to o which is - "How is TPM similar to TQM"?

Help please!!!!

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posted 21 March 1999 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I said, I don't percieve them to be alike. I'd say your thesis is a false hypothesis. But - I'm not a TQM expert.

Answer these 2 questions:

1. What is the definition of TPM?
2. What is the definition of TQM?

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posted 22 March 1999 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so is this correct -

TPM works together with TQM!
So when trying to discuss the similarities between the two, all i can say is that TQM works with TPM to be effective.

when talking about similarities between the two:
employee invlovment
employee empowerment
both long term strategies
both top-level support
??? - anything else?

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posted 22 March 1999 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not exactly. Again I ask you to answer these 2 questions (you have 10 minutes...) :

1. What is the definition of TPM?
2. What is the definition of TQM?

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posted 22 March 1999 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Total Productive Maintenance (TPM) is the Japanese approach to maximise the effectiveness of the facilities that are used within businesses. In general, TPM aims at getting the most efficient use of equipment and establishes a total PM system
including maintenance prevention, preventive maintenance, and improvement-related maintenance for the company.

Total Quality Management (TQM) is a way of thinking and working, that is
concerned with meeting the needs and expectations of customers. It attempts to move
the focus of quality away from being a purely operational activity into a major
concern for the whole organisation. TQM is a philosophy of organisation-wide commitment to continuous improvement, with the focus on team-work, increasing customer satisfaction, and lowering costs. This concept of TQM is very similar to the workings of TPM - in that customer satisfaction is the ultimate aim.
TQM is ultimately an umbrella term that covers every quality and productivity initative that you make in the organisation

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posted 22 March 1999 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
when talking about similarities between the two:
employee invlovment
employee empowerment
both long term strategies
both top-level support
??? - anything else?
That sounds like you have it. Maybe add Teams (typically multifunctional) and Continuous improvement.

By the way - where did you copy the definitions from?

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posted 22 March 1999 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i got them from several books -

i'm thinking about putting them into the essay - do u think i'll get in trouble - cause it looks as if i've copied it out of a book?

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posted 22 March 1999 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I was in college 25 years ago. I know that it did not appear to be 'your writing style' at all. In my days you could include anything as long as you gave citation reference in footnotes (or somewhere). I would start out with the definitions to establish what each is and then state your premise. From there go into your 'arguement'.

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posted 23 March 1999 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi again - sorry but i'm still confused on exactly what i should write.
Once i have written about both their descriptions, how do i answer the question????

"How is TPM similar to TQM?"

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posted 23 March 1999 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You discuss issues like those you cited:
employee invlovment
employee empowerment
both long term strategies
both top-level support

Write something about each one and how it plays a part in both strategies. That type of thing. This is why I said you have some reading to do. What year are you and what's your major? What's the class? What school? How many words or pages is this 'essay' supposed to be?

It has been a long time since I wrote a paper (essay, what ever), but I made an outline and then began filling it in. Back before PCs, but we did have electric typewriters in the 1970's (And pencils... Tee hee heee! No kiddin'!).

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posted 23 March 1999 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Royal Holloway, university of London
Studying computer science with management

2nd year

2,ooo word essay on - what is tpm AND HOW IS IT SIMILAR TO tqm?

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posted 24 March 1999 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does TPM have anything to do with quality? - like TQM does.

because i was thinking about putting in an introduction of 'quality' - at the start of the essay.

if u know, please let me know....

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posted 24 March 1999 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes - they are both aimed at product quality and Customer Satisfaction. The difference is, as I understand it, TQM is a philosophy and there are many tools you can use. TPM is a methodology with quite specific tools.

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posted 24 March 1999 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vishal   Click Here to Email vishal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so is it ok for me to write:

TPM is 'similar' to TQM in that TPM is used with TQM. Without TQM you cannot have TPM.

Therefore, TPM can be part of TQM??

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posted 24 March 1999 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TPM and its tools can be a part of a TQM environment, however, TPM is not necessary to TQM nor is TQM neccessary to (or for) TPM.

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