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Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
posted 13 July 2000 01:23 AM
From: "Edwin Humphries" [email protected] I've watched this thread with considerable interest. Some responses: SECURITY EDITING APPROVALS Best Regards ------------------------ From: ISO Standards Discussion From: "Pfrang, Doug" [email protected] I like Edwin's suggestions, as well as a few others that have been posted, because they address the important issues related to Intranet use without going overboard. Some people have the mistaken idea that Intranet use demands all sorts of extreme procedures for document security, editing and approval. In fact, unless the firm has (or is likely to have) a widespread problem with employees deliberately falsifying documents, the firm should do just fine with a minimal document control system (electronic- or paper-based) that merely prevents accidental tampering. In other words, the level of document security, editing and approval depend more on the character of the firm and whether it has (or is likely to have) forgery problems than on whether the firm chooses paper or an Intranet as its document storage medium. If the firm has no forgery problems with paper documents, then switching to electronic media should require no significant new procedures for document security, editing and approval. -- Doug IP: Logged |
Bryan unregistered |
posted 20 July 2000 07:37 PM
I was reading some of the posts for electronic documentation. I did not see anything that could answer my questions. I would like to ask 2 questions along this line. We are going to a full electronic system, meaning procedures and work instructions on line with each department responsible for assuring the current copy is posted, (pdf file) at this time. First, does ISO require us to keep a original Hard copy? And second, if a hard copy is not required, is it just a matter of how we define/document how we will do electronic approvals/signatures ? (is this allowed for ISO) Thanks for any input you can give. Bryan IP: Logged |
Roger Eastin Forum Wizard Posts: 345 |
posted 21 July 2000 08:48 AM
No, you do not need hard copies (I assume this means paper copies). Electronic signatures are great if you can confirm that the person who's responsible for review/approval are responsible for the signature. For instance, you have an e-mail message stating that the document is reviewed /approved by the responsible person. I'm sure there are other approaches, but something like this works. IP: Logged |
CarolX Forum Contributor Posts: 108 |
posted 21 July 2000 09:55 AM
Bryan, This is what I am doing. We are going to an electronic system, but I need to maintain approval signatures on file. Hope that helps a little. CarolX IP: Logged |
lyman Forum Contributor Posts: 19 |
posted 21 July 2000 11:10 AM
Bryan: The company I work for also has an electronic document system including electronic approvals. Our system is set up such that each document has an on-line Index which includes identification of the "Owner" of the document. Our electronic approval document requires that the "Owner" be the first signature sign-off and identifies all the other required signatories by title. When the document(s) hit our Doc Sys Group all they have to do is cross reference the Index to verify that the "Owner" has approved the document revision. The Index eliminates the need for us to keep a separate approval file. Our Level 2 document describes our system and indicates that this is the method we use to ensure compliance with ISO element 4.5.3. So far our Doc Sys Group and the system has been one of the consistent favorites of Third Party and Customer auditors. IP: Logged |
rrramirez Forum Contributor Posts: 23 |
posted 14 October 2000 09:03 AM
I can convert your quality manual to e-books without the need of Acrobat or any other program. IP: Logged |
Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
posted 26 January 2001 02:45 AM
Also see https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000091.html and https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000106.html and https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000041.html IP: Logged |
Sam Forum Contributor Posts: 244 |
posted 26 January 2001 08:55 AM
1- No, you are not required to keep a har copy, however, your registrar may request that you keep one controlled copy; just to give them that warm fuzzy ... 2- Develop a document control procedure for electronic media just as you would for hard copy , no difference.
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Arun Kumar unregistered |
posted 16 March 2001 06:32 AM
Hi Ali, In the long run, Laura' suggestion may not work. Please visit us at www.omnex.com. We have some unique solutions for ISO and QS documentation control. Regards, IP: Logged |
Don Watt Forum Contributor Posts: 70 |
posted 16 March 2001 07:10 AM
Hi, It's actually Comic Relief (otherwise known as red nose day) here in the UK - raising money for under priveliged children in Africa & the UK. From the postings today it looks like it may also be "give a plug to Omnex day"!!!!! IP: Logged |
DICKIE Forum Contributor Posts: 46 |
posted 16 March 2001 08:34 AM
Don, I was waiting for someone to make the OMNEX crack. congrats. IP: Logged |
Laura M Forum Contributor Posts: 299 |
posted 16 March 2001 03:07 PM
Arun, I have yet to post in this thread, so I'm curious as to what suggestion I had that won't work in the long run. If you mean the document control idea, then maybe you can explain why - cuz in the short run it is working just fine. Laura IP: Logged |
Jim Triller Forum Contributor Posts: 26 |
posted 16 March 2001 06:47 PM
I've designed and implemented web-based ISO 9001/2 registered systems for five companies, some of which have multiple, remote locations and have been registered for five years. All of the webs use HTML and scripts as well as "server side permissions." I have yet to have ANY findings or issues related to this approach (and only well known, reputable registrars were used). Additionally, this method requires no additional (proprietary) software or "seats." I would be very interested to hear about any negative issues that may result "over the long term" from taking this cost effective, efficient approach to documentation management and distribution. IP: Logged |
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