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Old 16th January 2018, 01:52 PM
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Angry re: CB and Internal auditors most common nonconformities against AS9100D

In Reply to Parent Post by dsanabria View Post

To my knowledge - most auditors are writing NCR on the AS9100C - not too many on AS9100D as it is vaguely written and hard to point out issues with it.
Thanks for your candor. And, because I believe your perception is correct and representative of the whole conformity assessment sector, it just gives more evidence to my line of thought that, it does not matter what "new requirements" a revised standard brings. Unless the conformity assessment practices make the system accountable to the requirements, such requirements don't exist, for all practical purposes.

That's why, it does not matter if a revision of the standard has "beefed up" requirements about the role of the organization's leadership in the system. If auditors (internal and external) are afraid of interviewing top management and asking them the tough questions they should be asked, for all practical purposes, top management is given a pass they don't deserve. What good does it make for a standard to have additional requirements if the auditors don't keep the organization accountable to them?

That's why, repeating myself for the nth time, the failure to devise conformity assessment practices and develop conformity assessment practitioners in a way that they assess systems under the new context, revising standards is a wasted effort. How ISO CASCO fails to see (and ACT) on that, is astounding, in my opinion.
Thanks to Sidney Vianna for your informative Post and/or Attachment!

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