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Old 28th April 2017, 10:27 AM
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Question Require PPAP Before Qualifying Vendor? (Packaging)

When should I ask a new supplier for Packing & Containerization sheets?

We have a potential vendor that has gone so far as to provide us some samples made to our spec. We haven't ordered enough from them to be able to take any pictures of what the full unit load would look like.

Should I even be asking for a PPAP yet? Should I go through the rest of the approval process and come back later for the Packaging sheet?

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Old 9th May 2017, 12:54 PM
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When should I ask a new supplier for Packing & Containerization sheets?

We have a potential vendor that has gone so far as to provide us some samples made to our spec. We haven't ordered enough from them to be able to take any pictures of what the full unit load would look like.

Should I even be asking for a PPAP yet? Should I go through the rest of the approval process and come back later for the Packaging sheet?
I don't know for sure what a "packaging sheet" is. On the one hand you refer to a "potential" supplier and then you say you haven't ordered enough from them, which suggests that you have ordered something (and paid for it). What's important is that your specifications are clear and reasonable, and that the (potential) supplier has demonstrated capability in fulfilling them. PPAP should be submitted with the first "regular" order, and if the automotive requirements are in effect, there should be no production orders until the PPAP has been approved.
Thanks to Jim Wynne for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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Old 25th May 2017, 10:54 AM
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When should I ask a new supplier for Packing & Containerization sheets?

When the supplier has produced enough parts to test the best option to submit a standard pack for your approval.

We have a potential vendor that has gone so far as to provide us some samples made to our spec. We haven't ordered enough from them to be able to take any pictures of what the full unit load would look like.
Place a PO for more parts in order to get a full picture for future situations, in this way you will avoid delivery mistakes.

Should I even be asking for a PPAP yet? Should I go through the rest of the approval process and come back later for the Packaging sheet?
You can ask your supplier to start PPAP while you approve everything related to the standard pack.
Thanks to Edustrial for your informative Post and/or Attachment!
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