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Old 4th December 2013, 09:37 PM
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Re: AS9100C Risk Management Procedure Example

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]Hello, I am also somewhat new to AS9100. Our customers have required us to upgrade from ISO 9001:2008. We are a small company 6 people. Any help with risk assessment procedure or flow chart would be appreciated. We do assembly no design.

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ISO 9001:2008 does not have a requirement for addressing risk. AS9011C does.
@BigJim: I think, Jimtop will upgrade from ISO 9001:2008 to AS9100. That's why his company need risk assessment

@Jimtop: Regarding AS9100 procedures, you can search it in google with keyword risk assessment procedures.

www(dot)dit(dot)ie/media/healthandsafety/documents/Risk%20Assessment%20Procedure.pdf
www(dot)hse(dot)gov(dot)uk/pubns/indg163.pdf
www(dot)docstoc(dot)com/docs/9078239/PROCEDURE-ON-COMPETION-OF-RISK-ASSESSMENT-FORMS

change (dot) with .

or any other web address that have risk assessment on it.

Based on our experience, the auditor will ask:
1. Show me your procedure
2. When you have a client, do you create risk assessment for each? (plus few question: when you have supplier, do you create risk assessment for them? Risk at assembly-disassembly process; man power capacity, overtime work, light, noise, etc)
3. How to mitigate the risk?
4. How do you know that your risk assessment is effective?

Oh yeah, and we still have a concern (not NCR) regarding: how you make sure that your risk assessment is effective. We shall fix that one

*sorry for my bad English -not native speaker-
I hope you understand
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Old 4th December 2013, 10:18 PM
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Re: AS9100C Risk Management Procedure Example

We are now ISO 9001:2008. Upgrading to AS9100.
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Old 29th January 2014, 12:08 PM
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Re: AS9100C Risk Management Procedure Example wanted

Hello, Could you help me, as9100 Risk Assesment problem,
I am really in bad situation because of our audit?
Can anyone send me an extra as9100 document?
I appreciate for your help.
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Old 29th January 2014, 12:29 PM
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Re: AS9100C Risk Management Procedure Example wanted

If your QMS is mature, you should have a good idea of the risk associated with various process/activities within your organization. A good example is OTD, on-time delivery, which you should already be tracking.

I use a simplified PFMEA to assess each of my risk. What failure modes effect on-time delivery? They could be material arriving late from a customer, bad weather, an inaccurate sales quote, process capability failure, etc. Then I create an action plan for those risk that are within my power to mitigate. Thse items then need to be tracked for compliance to my action plan.

Best of luck,
Doug
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Old 10th February 2014, 06:42 PM
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Re: AS9100C Risk Management Procedure Example

The concern for needing a procedure is not required by AS9100C. Currently only six procedures are required for compliance: control of documents; records; internal audit; control of nonconforming product; corrective and preventive action. The Standard states that risk is a "process" under 7.1 and that "the organization shall establish, implement and maintain a process". How the process is managed is up to the organization as long as 7.1.2 is satisfied as well as the requirements in 7.2.2e.
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Old 18th February 2014, 02:40 AM
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Re: AS9100C Risk Management Procedure Example

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The concern for needing a procedure is not required by AS9100C. Currently only six procedures are required for compliance: control of documents; records; internal audit; control of nonconforming product; corrective and preventive action. The Standard states that risk is a "process" under 7.1 and that "the organization shall establish, implement and maintain a process". How the process is managed is up to the organization as long as 7.1.2 is satisfied as well as the requirements in 7.2.2e.
I agree 100%, but often *procedure* gets confused with *process* in questioning, lost in the translation possibly. When that happens, I'm guessing people want to read through the documented process (aka procedure) to help visualize it somewhat.

If you can demonstrate you are able to consistently meet all requirements with your undocumented process that runs like clockwork and everyone understands ---> no procedure.
If you want to establish more control because you think it's of benefit and there are indications people are departing from it, or some confusion over the tools to use etc...(if you're "herding cats") ---> document your process and whether you call it a procedure of simply your flowchart that's your call.

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Old 18th February 2014, 04:00 AM
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Mike,

You are talking about an undocumented procedure.

Process is the work and procedure is the specified way of carrying out the work.

Procedures may or may not be documented.

Many of us may know what you mean by "undocumented process" but this term further confuses those who are trying to understand the difference between processes and their procedures.

John
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Old 18th February 2014, 10:30 AM
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Re: AS9100C Risk Management Procedure Example

I pointed out my comments above because Purchasing is audited annually under AS9104/1 and some might think a "procedure" is required. Again, it is up to the organization to demonstrate the effectiveness of the process. Certainly procedures (or Work Instructions) can specify how the process is carried out but ensure your process provides "evidence" of success. Otherwise, defending such a process may leave you in the cold.
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