I'm not sure what thread she was responding to, but I received this from a reader:
Nancy Foncannon wrote:
Subject: Wrong answer
Mark: As an auditor for ISO/QS and A2LA, the only tests that need to fall under 4.10.6 are those that are required for PPAP data. Process "Tests"(i.e. solution testing, pH for example) need not be included, as process solutions, are covered in 4.9(d) monitor and control of process parameters.
4.10 applies to inspection of product, incoming, in-process, and final. The intent of 4.10.6 is to verify that the tests defined in the Lab's Scope (right, lab determines the Scope, not the auditor) are subject to compliance with the 4 or 5 new requirements listed.
The purpose of evaluating lab tests is to determine the quality of DATA produced, regardless of how well (or poorly) the company's products perform during testing.
That is why GM requires (in Section II and PPAP manual) that PPAP data come from "accredited labs". The requirements of 4.10.6 represent only 25% of the full ISO/IEC Guide 25 requirements.
Hope this helps!
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\\ Nancy A. Foncannon
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Folks - when I'm wrong or off base, you don't have to point it out, errrr... Ummm...
No - all kidding aside. I hope when I'm wrong or off base that you speak right up (type right up?) in a response. I'm still learning and sometimes I'm not thinking real clearly and sometimes I simply misunderstand.
Thanks for the 'heads up' Nancy! Your input is much appreciated! I hope you join in the fray more often!
[This message has been edited by Marc Smith (edited 01-27-99).]